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Re:Arguing from compassion (2021) by roenxi on Monday July 25, 2022 @08:15AM (#32223286)
If it isn't labelled explicitly, by and large the cudgel people can't tell when it is happening, can't mimic it & don't know how to attack. The reason they cudgel is because they can't use empathy - if they could they would, it is a more powerful tool. Plus the cudgel hurts both parties.

It sounds stupid, but I believe it. The flow of a lot of arguments make sense if you assume neither side understands practical empathy (not a comment on objectives, just they can't hold 2x perspectives in mind at once so a lot of the conversation is invisible to them).

Re:Arguing from compassion (2021) by t-3 on Monday July 25, 2022 @10:21AM (#32224667)
I've become convinced that (most?) people only possess "visual empathy" - that is, they can only empathize with what they can see. I think it explains why arguments on the internet often seem to have manipulative strawmanning sociopaths on both sides.
Re:Arguing from compassion (2021) by ROTMetro on Monday July 25, 2022 @11:42AM (#32225970)
I remember seeing somewhere that societal empathy didn't strongly exist as a cultural trait until people started reading stories where they put themselves in other people's shoes. I guess communal storytelling wasn't enough to change a persons mindset. It was in the context of historical greeks were all sociopaths and narcissists and quite different from the average person today.
Re:Arguing from compassion (2021) by anamax on Monday July 25, 2022 @03:15PM (#32229524)
Many people confuse expressive with empathy.