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Re:Imaginary numbers are real by SideburnsOfDoom on Sunday July 24, 2022 @09:51AM (#32213502)
> I think the real difference is that dividing by zero is not useful, so it has never needed defining.

Incorrect. The result of dividing by zero is provably "not well defined" - for standard mathematical definition of what is and what isn't "well defined".

Specifically, Limits (1). for 1/x, as the x approaches zero from above and below, the two limits are not the same, therefor the limit is not well-defined (2)

As x tends to zero from x > 0, 1/x tends to a limit of +infinity. Calculate 1/x for values of x = 2, 1, 0.5, 0.1, 00.1 and so on as you approach zero: the results are larger and larger positive numbers, without bound.

As x tends to zero from x < 0, 1/x tends to a limit of -infinity. Calculate 1/x for values of x = -2, -1, -0.5, -0.1, -00.1 and so on as you approach zero: the results are larger and larger negative numbers, without bound.

Even allowing "infinity" as a valid number, this isn't converging to the same answer. (2)

I suppose that you could "define" the answer in much the same way that we define i as "the imaginary square root of -1" and thus get complex numbers.

The question that would follow though, is: If we e.g. define "q" as the limit of 1/x as x -> 0, this is a number that is both positively and negatively infinite at the same time, what then? What can we do with it? It turns out that complex numbers are useful (3) and look a bit like quarter-circle rotations. But this q, the "self-contradicting infinite number" doesn't really seem to be useful.

1) https://byjus.com/maths/limits/

2) https://www.mathway.com/popular-problems/Algebra/200474

3) https://issuu.com/harrowhongkong/docs/final_scientific_harro...

Re:Imaginary numbers are real by jacobolus on Sunday July 24, 2022 @01:18PM (#32215555)
"q the self-contradicting infinite number" is so useful that it sits at the foundation of the whole subject of projective geometry.

Which we can use for such lovely practical applications as rendering the CGI baddies we want to blast in 3D shooter games.

This "number" is also of fundamental importance to complex analysis. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riemann_sphere https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeros_and_poles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meromorphic_function

Re:Imaginary numbers are real by SideburnsOfDoom on Sunday July 24, 2022 @01:20PM (#32215572)
Explain?