> specifically agreed country is utterly corrupt mess, government after government, with tight coupling to <bad people>.

Isn't that (citizens thinking that) the same for most countries in the world?

Like I'm pretty sure many US citizens would say the same.

Or UK citizens.

Or German citizens.

Or <insert EU member state> citizens.

Or Singapore, Australia, china, japan.

etc.

through they might mean different thing when they say "corrupted mess".

And yes, all the mentioned states are corrupt to different degrees in different way. But I think finding citizens which would describe their country as "corrupt mess" isn't a problem (except if they are afraid about repercussions).