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Re:Hardcoded password in Confluence app has been leaked on T... by viraptor on Saturday July 23, 2022 @02:10AM (#32200834)
So just to be clear... you listed your personal biases from various experiences that were not security audits as a response to essentially: have you got a source for audits being just nessus scans? For the record, as a person both involved in running security reviews of webapps, and dealing with good and bad companies doing the same, I'm kind of annoyed / disappointed how many people here can't handle nuance or understanding things in context.
Re:Hardcoded password in Confluence app has been leaked on T... by dijit on Saturday July 23, 2022 @02:47PM (#32206296)
This is frustrating to read. The parent is telling the truth, I can’t give you my internal audits because they’re extremely confidential and sometimes a little bit shameful.

It also would affect business relationships which is something every employment contract I’ve ever signed has stated is something which is a violation of my employment terms.

So, to pile on a little: yes, the parent is right in a lot of cases, there are exceptions, but of 12 audits maybe 10 were essentially Nessus version checks. This was needed mostly for rubber stamping.

Re:Hardcoded password in Confluence app has been leaked on T... by viraptor on Saturday July 23, 2022 @08:35PM (#32209027)
I'm not disagreeing with you. There's lots of companies doing crap work and lots of companies that need only the compliance checkmark and hope for crap work with no hard-to-fix findings. It's sad, but that wasn't even my issue. I think it's an issue when people start the expectations from the other side: if you had a security audit, it was just a rubber stamp. It's unfair to people who may have invested time and money in a engagement. It doesn't help people who want to run a good audit and hear that it doesn't exist.

Better ways to say the same thing without undermining people's trust in the whole idea: There are lots of scammy security audit companies, Confluence should make sure to engage a good quality ones. Companies should invest in serious pen tests rather than just org compliance for security. Here are companies that actually did a good job...

Unless the goal is to bury the whole idea under a list of issues with bad actors and make sure nobody knows there are alternatives?