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Re:Polio Detected in US by mrguyorama on Friday July 22, 2022 @03:00PM (#32195839)
Except unlike that Alzheimers research, vaccines work. They often work astonishingly well. If you want to pretend viruses don't exist, you need to provide alternative reasons for why these vaccines work so well, and especially now that we have shown mRNA vaccines work, this alternative explanation also has to work in cases where only a tiny subset of that virus exists in the vaccine.

Quite simply, not understanding something, or not liking the consequences of it, is not skepticism, it's ignorance. Skepticism requires having good reasons to reject good models/research/outcomes etc. In the Alzheimers case, the reason for skepticism, which many people in the field had, was difficulty reproducing results, and lack of positive outcomes from therapies using that working hypothesis.

Blind skepticism makes you beyond stupid, and eventually turns you into an idiot who watches Alex Jones and thinks your own son is a crisis actor

Re:Polio Detected in US by cies on Friday July 22, 2022 @07:52PM (#32198587)
I'm not saying viruses do not exist. I'm saying that they are merely a theory that is not proven with the same scientific rigor that bacteria infections have been proven. In fact I find the science on the existence of viruses rather thin.

https://rumble.com/v13jt4t-science-pseudoscience-and-the-ger...

> especially now that we have shown mRNA vaccines work

Right, they dropped from 100% effective to 30% effective in the first weeks, then requiring boosters. They totally lied/oversold them. And everyone got "it" anyway. How does that mean "they work"?

Re:Polio Detected in US by aaaaaaaaaaab on Friday July 22, 2022 @08:55PM (#32199055)
You realize that viruses are visible via electron microscopy?
Re:Polio Detected in US by cies on Sunday July 24, 2022 @07:58AM (#32212581)
Are they? EM changes the sample, it can destroy cells.

Also they do not look at truly isolated samples of viruses: they look at concoctions of monkey kidney cells, bovine fetal serum and more with the supposed virus in there. When looking at a concoction like that, what certainty you have you see the virus and not another small biological particle (like exosomes, or dead cell debris)?

Last thing, it seems that with many of these EM photos of viruses, is that the control group was omitted. You also need to bring a concoction that does not have supposed virus in there and somehow show that does not contain the visual element that ARE seen in the sample with supposed virus. Virologists disagree and are okay with going ahead without control groups in these cases.

Re:Polio Detected in US by tekknik on Sunday July 24, 2022 @08:43AM (#32212894)
> When looking at a concoction like that, what certainty you have you see the virus and not another small biological particle (like exosomes, or dead cell debris)?

Because a virus looks nothing like cells that would make up any of those organs. When you examine enough samples and suddenly see some cells that don’t look like they belong that’s a pretty good indicator of a foreign body.