Re:Tell HN: You can't hire because you don't post salary ranges
by ricardobeat on Thursday July 21, 2022 @03:22PM
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Not possible because their $500k/year likely only materializes after vesting. Leaving after only 3-4 years on the job would mean the realized yearly comp is closer to 200-250k.
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Re:Tell HN: You can't hire because you don't post salary ranges
by daggerdrone on Thursday July 21, 2022 @04:16PM
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Sorry but that's not how it works. $500k/year would mean roughly $250k base+bonus and $1 million of stocks vested over four years. And at most companies, the vesting starts after 1 year. So at the end of year one, you would have made $500k in base+bonus+stocks. And after that you would usually get the stocks every quarter so $62.5k worth of stocks every quarter. I am not sure where is your figure of 200-250k Total Comp coming from?
Re:Tell HN: You can't hire because you don't post salary ranges
by ricardobeat on Friday July 22, 2022 @03:42PM
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When someone says $500k/year, they usually mean a package like $150k base + $350k stocks with yearly grants.
For the standard 4-year vesting schedule, and assuming a new $350k grant every year, this means actual earnings are:
Year 1: $150k + $0 $150k
Year 2: $150k + $87.5k $237.5k
Year 3: $150k + $87.5k*2 $325k
Year 4: $150k + $87.5k*3 $412k
If you leave here, at year 4, and lose all unvested options (expected), your actual average was $281k/year.Only by year 5 you'll finally actually earn the $500k/year, and the vesting schedule has such an impact on the early earnings that even after a decade, your yearly average is still $400k.
Not to forget taxes. So the idea to "save for one year then take 6 years off" is kinda off the menu unless they've been at the company for a long, long time, or are willing to spend those 6 years living in Thailand.
Re:Tell HN: You can't hire because you don't post salary ranges
by jacquesm on Friday July 22, 2022 @09:18PM
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$500K / year at year four is something entirely different than $500K / year. And that's what the OP said they were making.
Re:Tell HN: You can't hire because you don't post salary ranges
by ricardobeat on Friday July 22, 2022 @10:10PM
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How often do people get one large grant upfront, vs yearly refreshers? I was under the impression the latter is the norm.
Re:Tell HN: You can't hire because you don't post salary ranges
by jacquesm on Saturday July 23, 2022 @04:59AM
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There are plenty of people making $500K total comp annually right here on HN.
Re:Tell HN: You can't hire because you don't post salary ranges
by comp_throw7 on Sunday July 24, 2022 @02:30AM
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Yearly refreshers come on top of the initial large grant - I've never seen a place that had yearly refreshers without an initial grant.
Re:Tell HN: You can't hire because you don't post salary ranges
by devoutsalsa on Thursday July 21, 2022 @03:24PM
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My last job started vesting on Day 1. It was pretty nice.