It's interesting though. The container orchestration at work has kind of moved past the initial scary phase, and kinda past the first honeymoon phase. In the beginning, it was like "Oh we can use all kinds of technology in there, how amazing!" - by now we're much rather becoming very, very efficient a smacking problems with the 3 boring old sticks dev has. Something like deploying and monitoring low-volume spring boot applications based on postgres has become extremely streamlined by now.