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Re:Magnus Carlsen to give up World Championship title by franknstein on Thursday July 21, 2022 @08:11AM (#32178391)
Ahh okay I think I get it now, you are saying if chess is win for black, that immediately implies zugzwang for white from starting position. In the same way, chess being a win for white implies zugzwang for black starting position.

So chess being a win for one side is equivalent to starting position being zugzwang for the other side.

It's obvious now, but so interesting to me, I never thought about it that way! Thanks for taking time for explaining yourself.

Re:Magnus Carlsen to give up World Championship title by Gehinnn on Thursday July 21, 2022 @11:23AM (#32180487)
White could win without zugzwang! Because white starts. After the first move, the position is no longer symmetric, so it doesn't help black to skip to switch sides.