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Re:Half of Americans anticipate a U.S. civil war soon by grandmczeb on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @04:31PM (#32171859)
The core research that "On Killing" was based on (S.L.A. Marshall’s "ratio of fire") was probably fabricated[1]. I'd treat any claims in the book with a lot of skepticism.

[1] From https://www.gwern.net/docs/history/s-l-a-marshall/1988-spill...:

> His surviving field notebooks show no signs of statistical compilations that would have been necessary to deduce a ratio as precise as Marshall reported later in "Men Against Fire".

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Re:Half of Americans anticipate a U.S. civil war soon by giardini on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @05:04PM (#32172298)
Grossman devotes almost an entire page to the history of controversy over Marshall's results in the Notes of "On Killing"*, p. 336 (Section 1: Killing and the Existence of Resistance") . IOW Grossman clearly acknowledges the debate and welcomes more research.
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Re:Half of Americans anticipate a U.S. civil war soon by grandmczeb on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @07:04PM (#32173578)
So out of 400 pages, Grossman only devotes part of one page to the fact that the entire basis of the book is probably fraudulent? That doesn’t seem very reassuring.
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Re:Half of Americans anticipate a U.S. civil war soon by giardini on Thursday July 21, 2022 @12:34AM (#32175806)
Obviously you and Grossman disagree.

For those still reading, the controversial aspects that grandmczeb speaks of (and which Grossman has addressed) is discussed here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.L.A._Marshall#Controversies

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