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Re:FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be r... by Ajedi32 on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @10:16AM (#32151807)
China did ban Facebook, as did Russia and North Korea. Countries where Facebook is not banned are largely allies of the US.
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Re:FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be r... by TehCorwiz on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @10:37AM (#32152161)
Don't forget that The EU is currently considering banning Facebook if changes to privacy and data security aren't made.

https://www.independent.ie/business/technology/ban-on-facebo...

https://news.yahoo.com/facebook-instagram-face-europe-ban-16...

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Re:FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be r... by jkaplowitz on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @10:56AM (#32152410)
The EU authorities themselves are not banning Facebook, per se, despite the headlines - the threat to remove Facebook from the European market comes from Facebook/Meta, because they don't want to comply with the expected upcoming order preventing them from transferring EU data subject data to the US. The thing that the EU officials are preparing could be described as a ban on data transfer, although it's really an order to comply more correctly with an existing law (the GDPR) rather than a new obligation. But it's not a ban on operating in the EU.

If Facebook kept EU data subject data in the EU, or even if they use Standard Contractual Clauses to transfer it to different third countries without the same kind of problematic surveillance laws that the US has, there would be no issue.

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Re:FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be r... by BrandoElFollito on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @11:30AM (#32152973)
What does the fact that we are allies change? This is espionnage in any case and the US has shown that they do not miss a beat when it comes to stealing information from us.

We would be doing the same of course if we were not much weaker and if our products were actually used over there.

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Re:FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be r... by _-david-_ on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @12:12PM (#32153837)
If a major war occurs in the near future it won't be between the EU and the US. This lowers the risk of US companies hold EU data.

Also, don't be one sided on this. The EU countries also spy on the US.

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Re:FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be r... by BrandoElFollito on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @01:14PM (#32154884)
> If a major war occurs in the near future it won't be between the EU and the US. This lowers the risk of US companies hold EU data.

I do not understand. What does a war has to do with the fact that countries spy on each other without rest? Merkel's phone was bugged by the US - not something nice you do to an ally, right? (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-24690055)

> Also, don't be one sided on this. The EU countries also spy on the US.

I am not and this is exactly why I wrote the second sentence. Our capacities, unfortunately, are way lower.

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Re:FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be r... by dontblink on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @12:10PM (#32153806)
Well, allies can ask friendly governments for information on their own citizens without violating and of their own privacy laws. So it can be useful as a circumvention tool for them.
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