You're totally right. I posted this before I went and found out that this guy's knives are in a different realm than what I've ever used. Looks like they run in the region of $300-500, not $50-80 which is what I was referring to. There's a few posts elsewhere in this thread that point to other mass produced but quality knives. The nice knife I like and use every day is definitely mass produced. I learned about knives today!

That being said, I still think patio11's characterization is a bit unfair, and I stand by what I was saying about coffee.

There really is a wide gulf between the best series of Wusthof, and a handmade Murray Carter (or I presume Cut Brooklyn) kitchen knife. But the latter are not for everyone... like, stop paying attention for a moment and goodbye fingertips. The best knives are so thin and sharp, that you can dice an onion without tears because you've not mushed the thing up.

I have a set of good German knives too, and I reach for them when a softer, less brittle edge is needed, such as when dealing with bones or partially frozen stuff. They're still very, very good, but it would be easy to tell blindfolded which is which.

I really don't know how much of this I believe. Maybe for sushi. But pro chefs in fine dining kitchens with zero tolerance for variation in an onion brunoise do not as a general rule use $400 custom knives. Some surely do, but they're not a job requirement.

My butcher uses a "crappy" mass produced stamped knife.

To a large extent I think these are fetish objects. Don't get me wrong: they are freaking cool and I want one.

Pro cooks often have other concerns--an inexpensive, adequately sharp knife that one can toss into the dishwasher and sanitize might win out.

You might consider picking up something like this <http://www.watanabeblade.com/english/standard/kuronakkiri.ht...; to see the difference without breaking the bank.

Yes, that's true, but pro chefs also have unusual requirements for precision and speed, which is basically the whole value proposition for "super sharp knife".

Home cooks don't need to be able to produce a perfect dice. Line cooks do. Line cooks don't tend to use $400 knives. That's telling.

The best knives I've ever used are these: http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=ceramic+...

They are incredibly sharp - you can cut a loaf of very soft bread without squishing it at all - and no crumbs either.

You cut bread with a non-serrated knife? :)

Ceramic knives have a bunch of downsides; they're even more high-maintenance than $500 custom steel knives.

> You cut bread with a non-serrated knife? :)

I never did before - but now I do. It really does cut better than a serrated. It also gives the bread an interesting very smooth texture on the cut.

Ceramic knives don't need maintenance. I don't do anything at all to them, except you have to be very careful not to bang them on anything - a good cutting board is essential. And never drop them or pry with them - they are brittle. (So I wouldn't use them to separate frozen items, or on bones.)

Mine have some knick on the edge - it doesn't hurt the cutting ability, but I figure once I have too many of those I'd either have to resharpen, or just buy them again. A $15 knife every year or two is not that expensive.

If you haven't tried them you should.

Ceramic knives are cool, but I need something that can cut through bones several times a week and not be permanently out of sharp if I miss a joint or nick the knife wiggling between bones to find it.