U.S. transition to 988 suicide and crisis lifeline begins Saturday

Re:U.S. transition to 988 suicide and crisis lifeline begins... by R0b0t1 on Sunday July 17, 2022 @07:02PM (#32132398)

Unfortunately various studies have shown that people who are involuntarily committed are more likely to commit suicide. This is not a benign association: it is clear that psychiatric holds and the ensuing care at the very least are likely pointless and as no ontervention is free are likely actively harmful.

Assholes like yourself are why I need to bring a gun to my doctor visits. I might need to murder the doctor in self defense. Way easier to get out of a hold if you do that first.

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Re:U.S. transition to 988 suicide and crisis lifeline begins... by zahma on Monday July 18, 2022 @01:12PM (#32140668)

I’m the asshole here for trying to help people who might harm themselves? I don’t think you have a clue what’s happening on services like this. We’re not advocating that people get locked up against their will.

You’re out of line.

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Re:U.S. transition to 988 suicide and crisis lifeline begins... by R0b0t1 on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @06:56PM (#32173487)

Your other comments indicate you agree with involuntary holds. These usually do no good and remove agency form the person. What actually works is a more tender individualized intervention, but of course that is expensive and family may not know of warning signs.

Some of the worst people I've met are the EMTs who do these calls. Some believe they are doing no harm. They are worth killing, and I am not sure whether I could avoid doing that if someone exposed themselves like that to me.

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