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Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by Avicebron on Sunday July 17, 2022 @12:15PM (#32128096)
Why do you inherently ascribe it to "male loser" vs. just "loser"?
Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by zozbot234 on Sunday July 17, 2022 @12:19PM (#32128138)
Because patriarchy. To females, being a "loser" was simply the status quo; there were no "winners" to aspire towards.
Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by daseiner1 on Sunday July 17, 2022 @12:59PM (#32128580)
humbug. just because men have different measures of status and success does not mean women don’t have some of their own
Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by thrown_22 on Sunday July 17, 2022 @12:38PM (#32128339)
Imagine erasing such murderous despots as Kathrine the Great and Elizabeth Tudor because of their genitalia.
Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by InTheArena on Sunday July 17, 2022 @12:55PM (#32128533)
Neither of whom were outside of a single standard deviation from the norm in Europe at this time.

I find the GP argument less the convincing, but I believe that women haven’t been the face of genocide and war because of lack of opportunity - But all such are historical outliers - regardless of sex.

Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by thrown_22 on Sunday July 17, 2022 @01:03PM (#32128626)
Queen Victoria killed more people with famine than Stalin did.

The only way people can lie to themselves that women rulers have less blood on their hands is by not studying history.

Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by sealeck on Sunday July 17, 2022 @01:20PM (#32128851)
Queen Victoria had a _lot_ less power than Stalin did (Stalin had virtually complete control of the entirety of the state machinery, whereas Victoria was much more of a figurehead, although certainly less so than the British monarchy has thankfully become)
Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by usrusr on Sunday July 17, 2022 @03:25PM (#32130254)
Those stand-ins for men that didn't have a trace of parallels anywhere lower in the hierarchy.
Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by alangibson on Sunday July 17, 2022 @12:19PM (#32128140)
How many female dictators or mass shooters are you aware of?
Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by forgetfulness on Sunday July 17, 2022 @02:53PM (#32129876)
They've been mostly outside the West.

Tansu Çiller in Turkey, continued state policy of suppressing the Kurds

Khertek Anchimaa, Sükhbaataryn Yanjmaa, both chairwomen in Soviet satellites in Asia. I'm not aware of atrocities, just leading authoritarian regimes.

Isabel Perón in Argentina was democratically elected, but acted as a strongwoman in a time of political convolution. She was often eclipsed by her far more volatile, openly fascist Minister of Social Welfare, José López Rega, so you can contend how much repression came from each.

Sheikh Hasina, currently active, an electoral autocrat of modern times, violently suppresses opposition in Bangladesh.

Right now Jeanine Añez is serving jail time in Bolivia, following a show trial, the likes of which she was arranging for political opposition, that she also suppressed with the military. She stomped into the Bolivian Government palace with Bible in hand and her goons tearing down indigenous banners, promising to bring God back into the country.

And well, more, but none leading the great empires, no.

Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by thrown_22 on Sunday July 17, 2022 @12:30PM (#32128248)
Queen Victoria has a death count much higher than Hitlers. Something quite impressive considering the world had a quarter the population of 1940 when she started.
Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by anigbrowl on Sunday July 17, 2022 @05:05PM (#32131270)
Factually correct, but as head of state her direct impact on policy was minor - I'm not aware of her dismissing governments of whose policies she disapproved, for example. Accepting the fruits of imperialistic tyranny is morally culpable, but it's also a systemic problem, distinctly different from the active application of executive power.
Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by thrown_22 on Monday July 18, 2022 @09:06PM (#32146203)
There is no evidence Hitler was at all involved with the execution of the holocaust either.

Funny how you're holding one responsible for the crimes of their regime and the other was a figurehead. The moral of the story is don't lose a world war if you've committed genocide.

Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by dragonwriter on Monday July 18, 2022 @09:49PM (#32146564)
> There is no evidence Hitler was at all involved with the holocaust either.

There's considerable evidence he was, actually.

> Funny how you're holding one responsible for the crimes of their regime and the other was a figurehead.

It's almost like a head of state and a combined executive head of government and head of state are different things.

Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by thrown_22 on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @03:16AM (#32148448)
There is evidence he wanted the Jews out of Germany and he didn't much care if they left in a boat to Madagascar or on a train to an extermination camp. There isn't evidence that he was involved with either attempt.

If we applied the standards of the Nuremberg trials to the British Empire during the Boer war Queen Victoria would have been hung.

Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by dragonwriter on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @05:16AM (#32149253)
> There isn't evidence that he was involved with either attempt.

This simply isn't true. There's plenty of evidence of that. (There's one specific kind of evidence—an documented order—that doesn't exist, but there is plenty of other evidence, including a series of public statements stating intent to exterminate the Jews stretching back to 1922, and a statement in 1942 referring back to those anticipatory statements and claiming to have silenced those who would have laughed at them, among other anticipatory and inculpatory statements.)

> If we applied the standards of the Nuremberg trials to the British Empire during the Boer war Queen Victoria would have been hung.

There might be an interesting argument for that, but the assertion is not the argument, and since no person similarly situated to the British Monarch was tried at Nuremberg, such an argument would require something much more specific behavioral analogy to make.

Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by planarhobbit on Sunday July 17, 2022 @12:18PM (#32128128)
Probably because the only thing that can physically stop a man is another man, and when men get so unhinged as to support ruthless leaders to get what they want, all bets are off and you’re dealing with a carnage waiting to happen.
Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by honkler on Sunday July 17, 2022 @01:30PM (#32128957)
As long as a woman has a womb, she’s never the loser.
Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by poorlyknit on Monday July 18, 2022 @08:20AM (#32137427)
Could you elaborate on that?
Re:George Orwell’s 1940 Review of Mein Kampf by honkler on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @10:27AM (#32238738)
No.