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Re:Dmitry Rogozin has been dismissed as director general of ... by somenameforme on Friday July 15, 2022 @12:19PM (#32109727)
There's one name that sums up the issues in Ukraine better than perhaps any other: Stepan Bandera [1]. He was killed in 1959, yet remains a major figure in understanding the divide in Ukraine. He was even made a Hero of Ukraine (Ukraine's highest honor) before that honor was annulled by Yanukovych (the president overthrown in 2014) on a technicality.

Going down that rabbit hole or learning about things like the "2014 Odessa Clashes [2]" (and think about how we would treat that event, or even call it, had it happened to the side that we're supposed to like) or even the Language Policy in Ukraine [3], and you can actually start to see how deep in information warfare we currently are. And it's unpleasant.

I am avoiding doing much beyond giving references for you to read yourself largely because of what you mentioned. In the current atmosphere it's basically impossible to actually discuss the war in an open fashion, and probably will remain so for years to come.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera

[2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odessa_clashes

[3] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_policy_in_Ukraine

Re:Dmitry Rogozin has been dismissed as director general of ... by lotusmars on Saturday July 16, 2022 @10:46AM (#32118673)
Odessa clashes was Russian and pro-Russian gangs attacking an unarmed Ukrainian football fan march with firearms.

They then retreated to the House of Unions where pro-Russian opposition was based. Basically taking them as hostages.

The house was set on fire and multiple people died a horrific death.

While immensely tragic, don’t “both sides” this and spread Russian propaganda. The skirmishes were all captured on long live streams.

Afterwards Russian TV used it to further spread anti-Ukrainian hatred.

Re:Dmitry Rogozin has been dismissed as director general of ... by gdy on Sunday July 17, 2022 @07:58AM (#32126051)
You seriously need to read the wikipedia article about this mass-murder.

How the Ukrainian government conducted the investigation is quite telling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odessa_clashes#Investigat...