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Re:Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla by atonse on Friday July 15, 2022 @07:15AM (#32106952)
While I wouldn’t just naively say Musk is 100% innocent, most of these examples are cases of really bad estimation.

Nobody would care about the slipped FSD timelines if they hadn’t paid for it. Tesla’s mistake was charging for it.

I chose not to pay for it since I knew his estimates were rubbish. But most don’t. Doesn’t mean It’s fraud. They have been working on it. And you can see it in people’s cars.

Re:Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla by lazyjones on Monday July 18, 2022 @04:15AM (#32135825)
> Nobody would care about the slipped FSD timelines if they hadn’t paid for it. Tesla’s mistake was charging for it.

I paid for it (€2500 or 3000 I don't remember) and I'm not stressed. I have the world's best "autopilot" (EAP) already in my 5 years old car and it's getting better and better.

Other vendors would have sold me a parking heater at that price (or higher).