Oh absolutely. So during lockdown I played Left 4 Dead 2 a bunch with some friends and I had so much fun doing so. Much more than I can remember having on TFC and CS as a kid in the 00s. I imagine it's even more competitive and frustrating now, when I tried TF2 recently the maps were dominated by a handful of snipers who near-immediately killed everyone whenever they broke cover, I've no idea why anyone enjoys playing that game.

I identified a bunch of other co-op games we could try but then covid restrictions ended and spring had started, so I haven't got round to them yet but at least I have something to look forward to when winter returns :)

> when I tried TF2 recently the maps were dominated by a handful of snipers who near-immediately killed everyone whenever they broke cover, I've no idea why anyone enjoys playing that game.

Are you sure those weren't bots? The game has a real issue with them in the official servers.

Possibly, but if they're basically part and parcel of the game now I don't see much difference.