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Re:Smart thermostats inadvertently strain electric power grids by oceanplexian on Thursday July 14, 2022 @11:47PM (#32104407)
I live in the desert and there are tons of alternatives to AC that have been used for thousands of years.you can build structures partially underground, you can use the evaporation of water to cool the air, you can use wind catchers like the ancient Persians did, you can wear different colored clothing (Triple digits is not uncomfortable if you’re wearing light colors), you can sleep during the day and work when it’s cooler, and so on.
Re:Smart thermostats inadvertently strain electric power grids by celticninja on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @10:09AM (#32238484)
yes you can do all those things, but they only work if you actually do them. Which they dont. They rely on AC instead.
Re:Smart thermostats inadvertently strain electric power grids by asfsaf on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @01:20PM (#32321611)
Just saw both these comments, and I can only reply to this.

To "oceanplexian": Note that I used the word "universal". Evaporative cooling only works in dry climates. And the funny thing about dry climates is that they almost all lack water. I'll never forget the feeling of dread and horror when I saw water fans in Madrid cooling outdoor seating areas.

Your desert cooler is an environmental calamity and they should be banned.

To "celticninja": Yes you can do all those things but not universally in any climate (which was my point) and where it is possible it's probably an environmental disaster to do so (I can't think of any city in a dry climate in the world that doesn't have a water sustainability problem). You see we rely on AC (to your point), because we've thought the problem through and didn't stop at a shallow understanding.

Jeez guys! If your climate is dry enough for swamp coolers to be effective, they're dry enough for solar panels to make sense (if you care about CO2. I don't, I'm on acetaminophen). And it makes a lot more sense than wasting mineral water (i.e. well water).