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Re:Ask HN: What makes you optimistic about the future? by marginalia_nu on Thursday July 14, 2022 @04:38PM (#32101150)
I think the pessimism we are seeing now is the natural hangover from the period of optimism we saw in the post-war era. A lot of stuff just came together, and for almost a hundred years we've seen each generation get wealthier, have more stuff and more advanced technology than ever before. Pretty easy to grow up thinking that trend will keep on going forever. Nasty hangover when that turns out to be wrong. Periods of prolonged prosperity like that aren't unique in history, but have all ended. I don't really see any reason to think this time would be different.
Re:Ask HN: What makes you optimistic about the future? by tremon on Thursday July 14, 2022 @06:28PM (#32102173)
In my view, it's not (directly) because of the post-war optimism. That period saw great advances in almost every area of life. It's the period of stagnation that followed that's causing the hangovers. In the political and social arena, we stopped innovating in the 80's. We were just coasting on the stuff we built before, without clear direction and without new goals. Everything we had was "good enough".

Except that we didn't work to maintain what we had. Education systems were gutted, public infrastructure was sold off to the highest bidder (Bayh-Dole act, every privatization of government services that followed), maintenance was deferrred (many roads and bridges are deteriorating in both Europe and the USA, 80% of nuclear plants in operation today will reach EOL in roughly ten years without replacement).

Yes, periods of prolonged prosperity aren't unique, and they always end in one of two ways: destruction or decadence. Take your pick.

for almost a hundred years we've seen each generation get wealthier

This isn't true. The last generation to be wealthier than their parents were the baby boomers: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/charting-the-growing-genera... . The average wealth per person has been decimated since then: Generation X is only half as wealthy as baby boomers, while the average millennial is ten times less wealthy than a boomer. And this isn't just because of their current age:

> In 1989, Baby Boomers and Generation X under 40 accounted for 13% of household wealth, compared to just 5.9% for Millennials and Generation Z under 40 in 2020.

So in 30 years time, the younger generation lost over half its wealth to the older generation.

Re:Ask HN: What makes you optimistic about the future? by marginalia_nu on Thursday July 14, 2022 @08:21PM (#32103010)
That's only true with regards to the distribution of money, which isn't really what I'm talking about. Maybe wealth isn't the proper word, but you know how it was only the really wealthy Generation X:ers who had car phones? Well middle class Millenials grew up with mobile phones ten times as powerful.
Re:Ask HN: What makes you optimistic about the future? by agent008t on Friday July 15, 2022 @07:59AM (#32107198)
Arguably, housing is the biggest and most important expense in one's life, and that has become a lot less affordable.