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Re:Buddhism has found a new institutional home in the West: ... by NoraCodes on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @07:50PM (#32077318)
> To give you an example of this, a claim often made is “trans kids are being harmed due to lack of access to hormones/surgery”. I find this revolting. I would consider, for this example at least, the current system is doing good in protecting them, certainly it is not harming them.

Then I probably don't care about your opinion on this - we are almost certainly speaking from completely different ontological perspectives.

I asked the person I was replying to, because they seemed to have values at least somewhat compatible with mine, and thus I expect to learn something from them.

Re:Buddhism has found a new institutional home in the West: ... by throwawayacc2 on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @07:58PM (#32077374)
Fair enough. But, something has cough my attention.

> we are almost certainly speaking from completely different ontological perspectives

Do you consider me ontologically evil? Am I, as some people on the internet often refer to those with my sense of mortality, “a demon wearing human flash”?

Re:Buddhism has found a new institutional home in the West: ... by NoraCodes on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @08:47PM (#32077712)
I'm not sure why you would think that, as it's not what I said at all. Rather, I suspect based on this opinion that I disagree with some things you take as axiomatic, and vice versa, and therefore we have little to learn from arguing with each other.
Re:Buddhism has found a new institutional home in the West: ... by throwawayacc2 on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @09:26PM (#32077959)
When you said "ontological" I was reminded of a phrase I often encountered in leftist circles, the assertion some people are "ontologically evil". Precisely because they operate from a different set of axioms.

> therefore we have little to learn from arguing with each other

In a way I agree but at the same time I can't help but think exploring the axioms underlying moral foundations is important. Either to come to a shared set as a society or to construct a societal machanism that will allow people with a contradictory sense of morality to co-exist. To be honest, reaching a shared set of moral axioms seems to be a lost cause to me. But, perhaps the co-existance mechanism is still possible.

Re:Buddhism has found a new institutional home in the West: ... by NoraCodes on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @10:06PM (#32078247)
> When you said "ontological" I was reminded of a phrase I often encountered in leftist circles, the assertion some people are "ontologically evil".

If that's the first thing you think of when you see the word "ontological," I suggest you read some more philosophy before pondering moral axioms.

Re:Buddhism has found a new institutional home in the West: ... by ominous on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @03:15AM (#32079834)
Re:Buddhism has found a new institutional home in the West: ... by NoraCodes on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @01:09PM (#32085598)
I'm not sure what your criticism is here, sorry.