I think you're underestimating our dependency on energy in the modern world. It might be easier to convince us to just go ahead and start WW3, but we aren't going to do that, sorry. I hope we can find some way out of this that will be less harmful. What that will be I suppose only time will tell.

And how is Europe commiting collective suicide going to defeat Russia?

Must be fun looking in at all this from the sidelines.

I'm an european, and I never understood this...

We sent our soldiers to every shithole america decided to "bring democracy to", but now, ukraine has become so important, that we are willing to destroy our own economy and "passively fight" until the "last dead ukranian", to achieve what exactly?

Where would you draw the line? Moldova? Baltic countries? Poland? Everyone for themselves?

Where did we draw the line with USA?

In Pearl Harbor. It was later than it could be obviously.

His aspirations are much larger than Ukraine.

>doing business with [Nazi Germany] during the war

it is often forgotten that this is exactly what the US did for the first 2-3 years of the war. Germany swallowed up the wealth of Europe. Britain had already swallowed up the wealth of a quarter of the world. the US swallowed up both of their wealth and ended the war with 2/3 of the world's gold

this is a simplification, but it's also huge overarching story of WW2 that is often missed. people know the US and Russia became the world's two superpowers, but there's very little attention paid as to how the US came to be one of them