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Re:Air France announces end to research monkey transport by mlyle on Sunday July 10, 2022 @02:21PM (#32047361)
> There is no replacement for animal models, except trials in humans, so if the alternative is that we do more, riskier trials on humans, then I'd much prefer animal testing

Totally true, but, at the same time---

Computational models have prevented all kinds of unnecessary animal testing of things that can be shown computationally to be unlikely to work. So, computational models avoid us doing more, riskier trials on animals.

Of course, we've not reduced animal testing-- instead we've just pursued more compounds and ideas. I'd argue it's worth it for speeding up the pace of medicine. But these things are not completely orthogonal.

Re:Air France announces end to research monkey transport by R0b0t1 on Sunday July 10, 2022 @03:59PM (#32048373)
There is the chance the computational model is wrong.
Re:Air France announces end to research monkey transport by iasay on Sunday July 10, 2022 @04:00PM (#32048389)
The animal and human trials don't always go well either.

You only hear about the human trials that go wrong.

Re:Air France announces end to research monkey transport by mlyle on Sunday July 10, 2022 @04:01PM (#32048403)
Yes, and there is the chance the animal model doesn’t represent human responses well, too.

We still use both to weed out treatments, for both ethical and cost reasons. Better to errantly eliminate a working drug occasionally than to let a lot of unhelpful stuff through.