We Need to Stop Pretending we can Limit Global Warming to 1.5°C

Re:We Need to Stop Pretending we can Limit Global Warming to... by viraptor on Sunday July 10, 2022 @09:23AM (#32044507)

I can't think of both "then humans will migrate elsewhere as we always have" and "The sky is not falling :)" as not a cruel joke. Yes, as a species we'll migrate, while a significant part of families die from hunger, riot violence, live in slum conditions, etc. I mean, we're taking millions of people living in extreme conditions or dying within a few generations. That's very much "the sky is falling".

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Re:We Need to Stop Pretending we can Limit Global Warming to... by ncmncm on Sunday July 10, 2022 @09:54AM (#32044811)

Many, many large civilizations have collapsed. Nothing about our current setup makes it any more robust than any before it.

What is different is that, for the first time, collapse will be global, not limited to one region.

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Re:We Need to Stop Pretending we can Limit Global Warming to... by GiorgioG on Sunday July 10, 2022 @10:05AM (#32044892)

> a significant part of families die from hunger, riot violence, live in slum conditions

You seem to be under the impression that we’re going over a cliff, rather an be a slow decline/collapse. What evidence do you have to support that? I’m not saying I don’t believe you, but we’ve had a long history of predicting eco-doomsday, but we’re still here. https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-of-failed-eco-poca...

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Re:We Need to Stop Pretending we can Limit Global Warming to... by adrianN on Sunday July 10, 2022 @10:19AM (#32045001)

Migrating a few hundred million people over a span of a couple of decades from areas where agriculture becomes impossible is "going over a cliff". Look what a few hundred thousand refugees did to European politics. We have nuclear weapons now. People will not quietly starve.

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