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Re:Elon’s Out by colechristensen on Saturday July 09, 2022 @09:42PM (#32041103)
The one used by most is DTCC, it’s basically owned by the banks who use it, not something that could be bought.

The legal entity which maintains the list of teslas owners is ultimately tesla, but that duty will be likely given to dtcc.

A stock is ultimately just an entry on a list maintained by the company, most offload the managing of the list to DTCC and usually the pointer isn’t to you but to your broker dealer.

There is no sense of being able to hide ownership overseas, we’re talking about an American company keeping a list that points to someone, that list can’t be offshored.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depository_Trust_&_Clearing_...

Re:Elon’s Out by jaycroft on Saturday July 09, 2022 @11:10PM (#32041515)
A little more nuanced take: the transfer agent maintains a list of shareholders at the company's behest, the DTCC is one step further down the chain, operating as a clearinghouse between brokers and banks. The list of shareholders is managed by the company or it's bookkeeper, the "transfer agent". Insiders and people who own paper certificates are on the list kept by the transfer agent, directly owning their shares on the company's books, alongside Cede & Co (a partner of the DTCC), who owns the bulk of all publicly traded shares. Cede & Co, and it's partner, the DTCC, then maintain a list of which shares beneficially belong to each of the DTCC members (brokerages, banks). The brokerages and banks in turn maintain lists of which clients beneficially own the brokerage's shares.

For one commonly used transfer agent's take, see: https://www.computershare.com/us/becoming-a-registered-share...

Re:Elon’s Out by colechristensen on Sunday July 10, 2022 @02:06AM (#32042264)
Yeah for every explanation there’s another more complicated one, it’s a pretty crazy mess. A long chain of abstractions and not every one uses the same stack.
Re:Elon’s Out by bradknowles on Saturday July 09, 2022 @10:23PM (#32041281)
Note that the last time I checked, DTCC had over one quadrillion dollars of assets under management. They operate at a financial scale unlike any other entity on the planet.

For them, $44b is the crumb left behind after you've eaten the small potatoes.

Re:Elon’s Out by balderdash on Saturday July 09, 2022 @11:18PM (#32041549)
Totally agree with not being able to hide owner ship (especially when are a director, major shareholder, and ceo) but I think DTCC is really only in the mix when you buy/sell shares via an exchange, and their focus is the settlement between brokers and exchanges. The registrar and transfer agent is who maintains the list of share holders (Computershare is the resgistrar and transfer agent for Tesla).
Re:Elon’s Out by Victerius on Saturday July 09, 2022 @09:48PM (#32041131)
Thanks. I'm always curious about the practical logistics behind things.