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Re:Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US u... by DoneWithAllThat on Saturday July 09, 2022 @12:33PM (#32036718)
That’s not how lawsuits work. At all.
Re:Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US u... by zardo on Saturday July 09, 2022 @01:04PM (#32037087)
You do have to have a dim outlook on your prospects of winning to agree to pay out 10 billion.
Re:Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US u... by happyopossum on Saturday July 09, 2022 @01:17PM (#32037229)
Winning or losing a lawsuit of this type is not necessarily proof of guilt, or proof that roundup causes cancer. what it proves is that a jury was convinced that it does.
Re:Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US u... by dodgerdan on Saturday July 09, 2022 @01:37PM (#32037448)
Funny we execute people based on that standard, but yet it’s somehow lesser here…
Re:Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US u... by Thorrez on Saturday July 09, 2022 @02:05PM (#32037713)
In the US, criminal trials have a higher bar (beyond a reasonable doubt) than civil trials (preponderance of the evidence).

For executions there are additional things as well beyond the regular criminal trial.

Re:Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US u... by aperson_hello on Saturday July 09, 2022 @03:14PM (#32038325)
And we get guilt wrong in criminal trials all the time (see the number of people the Innocence Project has gotten off of death row because the person didn't do it). A jury saying one thing doesn't make it objective truth.
Re:Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US u... by User23 on Saturday July 09, 2022 @04:44PM (#32039135)
The overwhelming majority of convicted criminals really did the deed. The existence of black swans doesn’t mean most aren’t white.
Re:Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US u... by aperson_hello on Saturday July 09, 2022 @05:13PM (#32039357)
Roughly 90% accuracy. And the burden of proof is lower in civil cases.

Which isn't to say that a civil trial verdict isn't accurate to some extent - it just isn't absolute proof. There's some evidence in scientific literature about roundup's carcinogenicity at high doses (like what a farmer or landscaper would commonly encounter) and other various health issues at high dose. The big question is what happens at low doses and if it's impactful. The science is still out on that (and the alternative of lower agricultural output per unit of land area isn't really palatable from both a starvation risk perspective and a climate perspective).

Re:Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US u... by bitbang on Saturday July 09, 2022 @02:12PM (#32037801)
No we don't. In criminal law the burden of proof is "beyond reasonable doubt". The bar is set much lower in civil law with the plaintiff only needing to demonstrate a "preponderance of evidence".
Re:Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US u... by thfuran on Saturday July 09, 2022 @01:16PM (#32037212)
What if you're sure that there are going to be quite a lot of plaintiffs and expect to win a mere 99% of the time?