Thanks for this. It makes me hopeful that we can find people and a process to keep things civil and somehow engaging in such a forum.

Sure HN has its pains (and I'm an unconditional of the late n-gate site) but they don't come from moderation shenanigans.

I also appreciate the pedagogy I often see. Some participants here have never been actively moderated and dang takes the time to explain as if the moderated person was one of the 10000 of the day.