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Re:Ask HN: Which has more jobs: Python or Java+Kotlin? For a... by testbjjl on Saturday July 09, 2022 @01:45AM (#32032164)
> The language is huge, a lot larger than Java, takes a lot more time and effort to master it. It's easy to get started programming in it, but I'm talking about mastering it, not intermediate-level knowledge of Python.

If you talk about mastery in Java but exclude build tools like maven and gradle you are far from mastery in the Java ecosystem.

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