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Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by electic on Friday July 08, 2022 @05:40PM (#32027581)
It is quite easy to prove twitter is mostly full of bots. You do not even need a firehose to come to that conclusion.
Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by not2b on Friday July 08, 2022 @05:44PM (#32027648)
Right, but Twitter's method of counting the number of daily active users, meaning the number who are seeing ads, which is what the SEC report refers to, was allegedly designed to exclude most bots. Perhaps it's wrong, but they never said 5% of accounts are bots (far more are).
Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by dredds on Friday July 08, 2022 @08:27PM (#32029959)
Twitter's SEC filing: "In making this [mDAU] determination, we applied significant judgment, so our estimation of false or spam accounts may not accurately represent the actual number of such accounts, and the actual number of false or spam accounts could be higher than we have estimated."

Neither side said bots, but bots _should_ be a subset of "false or spam" accounts. They basically used "our judgement" and give themselves complete discretion. And 5% is a nice round number plucked from nowhere which sounds awesome! Providing proof of that to a Banker or Backer (or Elon or a future Jury) isn't therefore possible or intended. It's marketing spin in an SEC filing.

Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by vehementi on Saturday July 09, 2022 @05:59AM (#32033514)
> but bots _should_ be a subset of "false or spam" accounts

Do you mean "they should report all bots as part of their false or spam accounts number", or that you believe logically bots are in fact a subset of the number twitter reports, and so twitter's number is bogus if 50% of all accounts are bots?

If it's the latter, you're missing the point of their mDAU marketing metric. It already has all the obvious bots and non active accounts removed. They're saying, what % of advertising revenue turns out to be from bots.

Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by Johnny555 on Friday July 08, 2022 @05:43PM (#32027639)
If you have proof that twitter is > 50% bots, you should give that evidence to Musk. Or, give it to an attorney that's eager to see Twitter's board go to jail for putting false data in SEC filings.
Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by camjohnson26 on Friday July 08, 2022 @07:10PM (#32029030)
Even if 50% are bots it doesn’t matter. Twitter’s claims are around mDAUs, not accounts.
Re:Notice of termination of Twitter merger agreement by elil17 on Saturday July 09, 2022 @01:05AM (#32031909)
But Twitter said that the number was provided on a best effort basis, so you don’t need to prove the number was wrong. rather, you need to prove that Twitter tried to lie. Unless there’s an internal email saying “I’m making up the number 5% because we know it’s higher but we don’t want to write that,” it doesn’t matter at all. If such an email existed, Twitter wouldn’t be fighting the back-out because revealing that email would mean damages for existing shareholders.