And yet there is no "buy now" button and when I go to find the laptop I click on laptops -> for work -> all series -> filter processors -> "more" -> ryzen 7 ... not a single ryzen 6xxx shows up... Seems they are not acutually for sale yet. Same story for lenovo, the laptops with 5xxx cpu's can ship tomorrow, but the 6xxx cpus ship in "3+ months"... so ya, they are not actually available yet.

P16s looks perfect. I didn't want to say in my original post as it was a bit me-specific, but I'm also looking only for 16"+ laptops, and want to avoid the gamer aesthetic a lot of them seem to have, so the P16s looks perfect. Port selection and positioning is a bit odd, but hopefully ultradocks still exist for these newer thinkpads. I have one for my X220 and it works perfectly as a stand+dock