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Re:4th Gen KDE Slimbook – Linux Ultrabook with an AMD Ryzen ... by geokon on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:18AM (#32012091)
Matebook 16

Amazing laptop. I'm never going back to a small screen or a non 3:2 screen

Very hard to source though. Had to have it shipped specially from China

Re:4th Gen KDE Slimbook – Linux Ultrabook with an AMD Ryzen ... by dark-star on Thursday July 07, 2022 @08:18AM (#32013050)
I wonder what's with all the "3:2 screen" aficionados recently.

Some years ago, a 3:4 screen was considered "bad" and "unusable" and 16:9 or 16:10 was what you needed to have. Now 16:9 is bad and 3:2 (pretty close to 4:3) is back in business?

Is this just about chasing the latest fad? I mean 16:9 or even 16:10 has so much horizontal space that it's perfect if you do software development for example. Why is it so common now to give that up for more vertical space?

Re:4th Gen KDE Slimbook – Linux Ultrabook with an AMD Ryzen ... by waynesonfire on Thursday July 07, 2022 @08:32AM (#32013181)
4:3 is not a fad, it's superior but lost out due to manufacturers consolidating tv displays with monitors.

I guess they would like you to think it's bad since they don't make them for cost savings reasons. I'd buy 4:3. There are still a few niche makers for medical and industrial purposes but the specs are crummy and prices high relative to mainstream displays.

Re:4th Gen KDE Slimbook – Linux Ultrabook with an AMD Ryzen ... by thereddaikon on Thursday July 07, 2022 @09:10AM (#32013623)
I'd love to have a 4:3 laptop again. Best general use display. I find it amazing how we have been forced to use widescreens for so long yet our content, except for movies, still doesn't fit it. Office documents can fit on screen. Websites have to pad endless whitespace on the sides. The list goes on. We need to return to 4:3.
Re:4th Gen KDE Slimbook – Linux Ultrabook with an AMD Ryzen ... by ISL on Thursday July 07, 2022 @09:18AM (#32013700)
It is my belief that wider aspect ratio displays are easier to manufacture, too.

At a given pixel-pitch, you need fewer rows. In extremis, imagine a display that is N x 1 -- much easier to limit defects and handle the necessary multiplexing.

Re:4th Gen KDE Slimbook – Linux Ultrabook with an AMD Ryzen ... by Delk on Thursday July 07, 2022 @10:46AM (#32014777)
Back when 16:10 and 16:9 displays became common, I remember they weren't received particularly fondly by many of the developers I knew. Non-technical people seemed to like them more. More hardcore developers rather had to somewhat begrudgingly accept them.

Maybe the 3:2 aficionados aren't the same people who started disliking 4:3 displays when widescreen became popular?

Re:4th Gen KDE Slimbook – Linux Ultrabook with an AMD Ryzen ... by kitsunesoba on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:15AM (#32015149)
I think people realized that the media-centric 16:9 doesn’t handle the piles of horizontal bars (titlebars, toolbars, tab bars, status bars, taskbars, etc) that compose modern desktop UIs all that well, particularly at traditional laptop resolutions (1920x1080 and its 2x counterparts and below).

Personally I don’t need a ton of width, the most I have side by side on a laptop screen are two code panes in an IDE. If I need any more than that I’m docked at a desk with dual 27” monitors. I would say my sweet spot is 16:10, but I’ve not tried a 5:4 or 3:2 laptop and have never used a 4:3 laptop for dev work, so I don’t know if I’d find those more suitable or not.

Re:4th Gen KDE Slimbook – Linux Ultrabook with an AMD Ryzen ... by geokon on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:14AM (#32015142)
My guess is this this is a resolution issue. When the resolution was low, moving to 16:9 or 16:10 allowed you to have two side-by-side windows open. Now that the pixel density is higher you can make it 3:2, have two windows side by side even more comfortably, and get your vertical space back as well.

That said, you do sort of need 16 inches. Otherwise things start to get too tiny and you'll want to do scaling (which defeats the point..)

The Matebook 16 for me seems to hit the sweetspot in terms of pixel density and I don't feel the need to scale anything (the DPI is similar to my 1080p 13inch). So I'm actually glad it's not 4K

Re:4th Gen KDE Slimbook – Linux Ultrabook with an AMD Ryzen ... by lhl on Thursday July 07, 2022 @09:23AM (#32013754)
A few notes that may or may not matter to people:

* great res/aspect ratio, but claimed 300 nits, which is good enough for most indoor usage, but not in brighter environments) - that being said, Notebookcheck tested theirs at 350 nits

* RAM is soldered so you're locked into 16GB (M.2 wifi and 2280 SSD can be replaced)

* no USB-A ports

Overall though it's a pretty great laptop, can't wait to see how the Ryzen 6000 version performs (and if it had a 32GB version would be high on my personal shopping list).

NBC review for those interested: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Huawei-MateBook-16-AMD-Review-...

Re:4th Gen KDE Slimbook – Linux Ultrabook with an AMD Ryzen ... by geokon on Thursday July 07, 2022 @10:59AM (#32014944)
* no USB-A ports

I'm not sure what you mean. It's got two on the right side. And two USB-C on the left (though one will typically be used by your charger) - which seems to be unusual still..

16GB hasn't been an issue so far - but it's def my number 1 concern. But for under $1k I can't really expect more

Re:4th Gen KDE Slimbook – Linux Ultrabook with an AMD Ryzen ... by lhl on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:36AM (#32015416)
Ah, you're right, I had a different Huawei laptop page open for the spec sheet. having 2 x USB-A ports is great (personally, I usually have a wireless keyboard and mouse dongle, so it's something I'm still concerned about).

If 16GB is enough then that's great. Sadly, I will usually end up hitting swap even with 32GB, so getting to at least 40GB (8GB+ soldered, 1 SODIMM), but preferably 2xSODIMMs for 64GB ends up thinning out my options considerably.

Re:4th Gen KDE Slimbook – Linux Ultrabook with an AMD Ryzen ... by abdusco on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:29AM (#32012184)
How is the serviceability? Can you swap ssd / battery?
Re:4th Gen KDE Slimbook – Linux Ultrabook with an AMD Ryzen ... by geokon on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:18AM (#32015188)
nothing special in that department.. It's not a framework

You can see the notebookcheck review for details: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Huawei-MateBook-16-AMD-Review-...

My main concern would be procuring parts. I'd have to order them over Taobao and then have them forwarded and wait a while. Fingers crossed nothing comes up..

Re:4th Gen KDE Slimbook – Linux Ultrabook with an AMD Ryzen ... by abdusco on Thursday July 07, 2022 @12:34PM (#32016143)
Better get a battery replacement before you need it. It becomes really difficult to find replacement parts after a couple of years because the device is not "popular" and most sellers stop keeping stock.
Re:4th Gen KDE Slimbook – Linux Ultrabook with an AMD Ryzen ... by ClumsyPilot on Thursday July 07, 2022 @07:58AM (#32012861)
that looks like an interesting machine, reasonably priced
Re:4th Gen KDE Slimbook – Linux Ultrabook with an AMD Ryzen ... by geokon on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:04AM (#32015017)
Especially if you purchase on Taobao/VMall - then it's under $1K. I think they also sell a version in Germany, but the price is marked up a lot