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Re:Apple previews Lockdown Mode by 8note on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @08:09PM (#32008489)
Isn't the parallel construction narrative that it doesn't matter how you got the information as long as after you get it, you can show a way that you could have gotten it?

Even if the method used was illegal, and found to be illegal in court, the evidence is still admissible iirc?

Re:Apple previews Lockdown Mode by not2b on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @08:32PM (#32008632)
Ever read Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon? The WW2 part shows a team going through elaborate measures to create a plausible way that the allies can find out what the Germans are up to without revealing that they can read all of their messages. They would tell a submarine to surface at a particular location at a particular time and report what they see, for instance, and the sub crew would have no idea why, to produce a plausible explanation of why some German action was discovered.

Parallel construction often means they hide how they got the original information from the court and from the defense.

Re:Apple previews Lockdown Mode by rpeden on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @09:31PM (#32008971)
The neat thing is those parts of Cryptonomicon were largely based on things that actually happened:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra#Safeguarding_of_sources

Re:Apple previews Lockdown Mode by kortilla on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @10:54PM (#32009463)
No, that’s not how it works at all. You use illegally gained information to find other avenues to get evidence that on the surface look ok.

For example, you use illegally gained access to messages to find out about a meeting at a particular time. Then when the meeting to exchange contraband is happening, “a concerned anonymous citizen” calls in a tip of suspicious behavior and a patrol cop stumbled onto a bust.

Re:Apple previews Lockdown Mode by rocqua on Thursday July 07, 2022 @02:26AM (#32010584)
The evidence is not admissible. It is considered 'fruit of the poisoned tree'. Parallel construction only works if you can hide the illegal investigation from the court.
Re:Apple previews Lockdown Mode by evan_ on Thursday July 07, 2022 @12:19PM (#32015943)
…which is why they work really hard to hide it from the court. That’s the point of parallel construction.