Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series

Re:Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Ring... by tptacek on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @01:28PM (#31991127)

Not one of the Marvel Shows would break any reasonable TV top 10. The "1-2 showrunners, a writers room, and a rotating cast of directors" model is unimpeachably successful; it got us Breaking Bad, The Wire, The Sopranos, Deadwood, The Americans, and Mad Men, among many others.

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Re:Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Ring... by kevinmchugh on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @02:24PM (#31991859)

Atlanta and Barry both have small director pools, being mostly Hiro Murai and the series star/creator. Even those benefit from being able to switch for tonal benefit.

To some extent I think Louie set the precedent there, as CK was given complete creative control. Comedians were asking for "the Louis deal". Glover (and Ansari) seemed to get it, and both had the sense to hire other talented people. Louie (the show) suffers from its self-indulgence to the point it can't be rated that highly, where Atlanta maybe mostly avoids that fate.

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Re:Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Ring... by tptacek on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @05:56PM (#31994248)

Barry has something like 11 writers, and 6 directors, though Berg and Hader direct most of them. Arguably, writing in TV shows is more (or at least equally as) important than direction.

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Re:Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Ring... by ethbr0 on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @03:21PM (#31992550)

Also, say, things coming out of the other end of Disney: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian#Episodes

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Re:Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Ring... by oneoff786 on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @04:49PM (#31993511)

But are those representative of the average 1-2 showrunner outputs? No. They’re not. Most tv sucks. The fact that some shows are not in the top 10 greatest series of all time is irrelevant.

I would say the marvel tv series so far have been pretty solid. Even if you don’t like them because you have an allergic reaction to marvel, their execution has been really good.

If we must talk of THE BEST, then season 1 of American gods on StarZ was the best season of television I’ve ever seen. Mostly all written by Bryan fuller and Michael Greene. Not entirely. How do we weigh this? Hard to say, but man did that show crash and burn when they left.

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Re:Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Ring... by tptacek on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @05:33PM (#31994018)

Most of everything sucks. The point is that the showrunner model, with rotating directors and writers, is the industry norm; it's not some goofy thing Amazon is doing to cut costs.

I saw the first season of American Gods on Starz as well. It did not motivate me to watch the second season. That same year, though, we had The Good Place (showrunner), Better Call Saul (showrunner), The Deuce (showrunner), The Leftovers (showrunner), Maisel (showrunner), and Legion (showrunner). I think the model acquits itself nicely.

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