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Re:Germany records first monthly trade deficit since 1991 as... by TMWNN on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @12:58AM (#31984470)
>And of course, they got dragged into a war that they are too small for.

There is no inherent reason why Germany cannot singlehandedly support/fund Ukraine's war with a country with an economy 40% Germany's size.

That it cannot is a condemnation of every German government over the past 30 years. (That NATO's European members cannot do so either, and that the US is providing the bulk of the Ukraine aid, is correspondingly a condemnation of every member government over the past 30 years, although the newer members get a pass because they are a) small, b) poor, and c) actually meet the NATO 2%-of-GDP guideline.)

Re:Germany records first monthly trade deficit since 1991 as... by StanislavPetrov on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @10:49PM (#31996169)
>There is no inherent reason why Germany cannot singlehandedly support/fund Ukraine's war with a country with an economy 40% Germany's size.

There certainly is an inherent reason, which is that Germany and the German economy is dependent on Russian oil and gas as well as fertilizer and a whole host of other natural resources. This inherent reason will initially be felt only economically as factories and industries shut down without the resources need to continue production. In a few months when the temperature starts dropping this inherent reason will be felt in a much more interpersonal way as the German people start freezing to death when they can not afford to heat their homes or find the fuel to do so.

Re:Germany records first monthly trade deficit since 1991 as... by rasz on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @07:36AM (#31999432)
Calm down with those freezing to death rhetorics. Yes, they might have to wear sweaters indoors, no more 20-24°C in whole house during winter.
Re:Germany records first monthly trade deficit since 1991 as... by blub on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @03:10AM (#31985268)
Most countries have better things to do than perpetually going to war and meddling in the affairs of other countries. So on the contrary, there is no reason - inherent or otherwise - why Western Europe would get at all involved in this war. It’s a catastrophe for WE and by extension also for EE.

The US do have an interest and they’re dragging/pushing WE into the fire while EE are jumping head first with barely any encouragement.

If anything the EU has proven that the East-West rift cannot be overcome and that they do not have strategic independence.

Re:Germany records first monthly trade deficit since 1991 as... by v4dok on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @06:49AM (#31986634)
Funding a war is not fighting a war. Germany cannot fight a war now, thats why they "rearm".
Re:Germany records first monthly trade deficit since 1991 as... by mr_toad on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @02:06AM (#31984886)
At this point any two of the UK, France or Turkey could probably take on Russia by themselves. Turkey could probably do it by themselves.

None of them want to get in an expensive war. And Putin is probably bluffing about using nukes, but who wants to risk it.

Re:Germany records first monthly trade deficit since 1991 as... by v4dok on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @06:51AM (#31986659)
IMO, you severely underestimate how difficult wars are now. Russia has not even general mobilization active, Moscow is running "business as usual" (AFAIK). Taking any "modern" military completely out is a guaranteed war of attrition at this point (and a MAD in itself)