Kubernetes is a red flag signalling premature optimisation

Re:Kubernetes is a red flag signalling premature optimisation by ClumsyPilot on Monday July 04, 2022 @06:40AM (#31975602)

The Whole advice of using same language is especially silly - iOS is stuck with Swift, and the web is stuck with JS, and maybe you need an applitation that scales using actors across mutiple machines with Golang or Java, or maybe you need to plug into Windows tightly and need C#.

Kubernetes is not 'harder' if all you need is to host a webapp. Where it falls on the hardness spectrum depends on what you are trying to do, and what is the alternative. I am very fluent with Kubernetes but have no skills in managing traditional virtual machines.

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Re:Kubernetes is a red flag signalling premature optimisation by sofixa on Monday July 04, 2022 @07:08AM (#31975770)

> The Whole advice of using same language is especially silly - iOS is stuck with Swift, and the web is stuck with JS, and maybe you need an applitation that scales using actors across mutiple machines with Golang or Java, or maybe you need to plug into Windows tightly and need C#

And you're also forgetting Android and macOS and Linux.

That's why cross-platform frameworks like Electron and React Native are so popular. The time wasted in going native for every single platform is just infeasible for most non-huge companies.

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Re:Kubernetes is a red flag signalling premature optimisation by gls2ro on Monday July 04, 2022 @07:53AM (#31976043)

What is a huge company?

Here is an example of a team that is doing great work in mobile, frontend and backend:

3 people doing native iOS, 2 people doing native Android, 3 backend engineers, 1 frontend and 1 QA.

Two engineering managers/team leaders: one for mobile and one for web.

Of course this is one single product offering native mobile apps and some limited web app functionalities.

The apps are great, smooth, nice UX, works fast, offers native experience.

Is this a huge company? I don't think so.

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Re:Kubernetes is a red flag signalling premature optimisation by dj_brown_sugar on Monday July 04, 2022 @09:26AM (#31976777)

But you could also have 2 people working on React Native and have 1 person each for getting it to play nice with iOS/Android, and eliminate the need for an extra engineer.

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Re:Kubernetes is a red flag signalling premature optimisation by ohgodplsno on Monday July 04, 2022 @10:36AM (#31977496)

And end up with a subpar product because of your decision to use terrible tech that can't hold 60 FPS while scrolling a list

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Re:Kubernetes is a red flag signalling premature optimisation by zelphirkalt on Monday July 04, 2022 @01:52PM (#31979918)

Well, if React native is anything like the many react websites, then this isn't too far off actually. "modern" websites can already send your CPU puffing, when you hover over some element with your mouse pointer and it triggers some JS emulated style for :hover.

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Re:Kubernetes is a red flag signalling premature optimisation by ClumsyPilot on Monday July 04, 2022 @12:54PM (#31979158)

tss.. some people dont like being reminded that their favourite tech performs worse on an Nvidia 3090 than Winforms did on 800 mhz cpu running windows 98

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Re:Kubernetes is a red flag signalling premature optimisation by osigurdson on Monday July 04, 2022 @09:28AM (#31976799)

Complexity is often conflated with lack of familiarity.

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