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Re:How much health insurers pay for almost everything is abo... by karaterobot on Friday July 01, 2022 @03:32PM (#31951564)
> It's not just the insurers themselves, but the whole system. Burn it all down.

Painstakingly, methodically, improve it, taking care at each step that you're making it better. :)

Re:How much health insurers pay for almost everything is abo... by uoaei on Friday July 01, 2022 @03:43PM (#31951703)
This is exactly how to corner yourself into a local optimum that balances how much people are pissed off, rather than how much people see benefits.
Re:How much health insurers pay for almost everything is abo... by karaterobot on Friday July 01, 2022 @03:49PM (#31951822)
I'm not sure I agree. If it did happen, that's another problem to be fixed.

I do know that the way to design complicated, successful systems is to start with simple, successful systems and build on them: starting to design a complicated system from scratch seems like a recipe for much bigger problems, and that's what you'd have to do after "burning it all down". That's even assuming that "build something new" was the second step implied after "burn it all down", though you'll note that was not stated in the original comment.

I think we can agree that "burn it all down, and that's it" is the worst possible solution.

Re:How much health insurers pay for almost everything is abo... by uoaei on Saturday July 02, 2022 @02:49PM (#31961364)
> If it did happen, that's another problem to be fixed.

Adding problems disguised as solutions is exactly the issue I'm speaking to. You don't actually satisfy needs in this model, you just end up chastising your subjects with "look at what we've already given you, shut up and take it because there are others who need help too". This incites division and factionalism because you've constructed a market which forces people to compete against each other for charity.

Charity is injustice, as Chris Hedges says, because charity demands a cost from the recipient. Beyond this competition, we also can be confident acknowledging that charity develops dependence, which is again the opposite of sustainable self-determinism.

Re:How much health insurers pay for almost everything is abo... by quarantaseih on Friday July 01, 2022 @03:49PM (#31951812)
The chaos of "nothing" is very destructive. That realization is at core of why Im a conservative.