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Re:Unity employees ‘mad and stressed out’ amidst unexpected ... by WalterBright on Friday July 01, 2022 @01:58PM (#31950214)
On the other hand, the people who bought in the aughts were caught underwater with the 2008 crash in home prices. When using leverage to make investments, the lever always works both ways.

I could easily have been a billionaire today if I'd made different moves (like buying all the MSFT or AMZN I could when they went public). I know a billionaire who did just that - he borrowed every penny he could and put it into MSFT at the IPO.

Of course, I was also urged to buy bitcoin when it was $500. I didn't. Shrug.

Re:Unity employees ‘mad and stressed out’ amidst unexpected ... by StillBored on Friday July 01, 2022 @02:06PM (#31950343)
Where i live (Austin TX), I would have upgraded to a bigger house from my first if they had actually gone down in value. That was actually my plan and part of the reason I bought a cheap house in ~2005. But, the federal government stepped in too soon and made it clear to the banks that they were going to support the market. So outside of a few obviously overspeculated markets a lot of places just stopped going up in value, they never went down or if they did it was single digits.

I placed multiple offers on foreclosed houses (as did a few other people I know) none of us got them because the banks refused to sell them for less than the previous mortgage amount. They let houses sit vacant for 2-3 years until the market was basically recovered in ~2011. One of the ones I bid on, was listed for X, I bid that, was the only bidder and 6 months later the bank counter offered for X + 25%.

So, individuals got screwed on both sides, the people who lost their house, and the "savers" who were denied the deals they were waiting for.

(edit: Just to add to this, basically in auction terms the banks all set a hidden reserve price equal to the previous max while simultaneously listing them for far less than the reserve. It create an optical illusion of the housing market being cheap and full of unsold houses, while people who were actually underwater felt trapped because they would have to take a hit selling the house, and people trying to buy houses couldn't actually buy any without buying the "overpriced" ones being sold by actual individuals. A few people got lucky and bought at below market rates from individuals who had owned them long enough to be able to afford to sell at these lower prices, but those were pretty competitive even during the slowest part of the market. I was regularly outbid (I think it was something like 12 times), despite bidding over listing on them.)

Re:Unity employees ‘mad and stressed out’ amidst unexpected ... by slowhand09 on Friday July 01, 2022 @03:50PM (#31951834)
"I was also urged to buy bitcoin when it was $500. I didn't."

I was doing a data science project for a class in 2013. Instructor wanted it implemented and internet visible, with encouragement for users to "vote with bitcoin". It was around $14-$15 at the time. I passed on doing the project...

Re:Unity employees ‘mad and stressed out’ amidst unexpected ... by abawany on Friday July 01, 2022 @02:39PM (#31950843)
But remember that for everyone whom you remember for doing the correct thing, there are probably dozens more who did the opposite, such as borrowing every penny they could to put into pets.com or some 'stable'coin. Success is generally hard unless luck intervenes.
Re:Unity employees ‘mad and stressed out’ amidst unexpected ... by WalterBright on Friday July 01, 2022 @02:45PM (#31950927)
Of course. I wasn't willing to take anywhere near the risk they were, and so I don't begrudge them their profits.