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Re:Supreme Court to hear case on GOP ‘independent legislatur... by hirundo on Friday July 01, 2022 @12:00AM (#31942181)
If not the branch mentioned in the Constitution, SCOTUS would have to pick some other branch as senior for gerrymandering purposes. By what logic would they select a different branch? Discretion in the choice of branch is room for a judicial thumb on the scale. Picking the judicial branch would be self serving.

Clearly there's a huge incentive for corruption by giving legislatures the power to choose their own voters. But those incentives apply to the other branches too.

I'd like to see gerrymandering made moot by representation that is selectable by the voter across geographic boundaries. Each voter chooses their representative, instead of visa versa in a gerrymander. I wonder if a sufficiently independent legislature could do that in a way that is consistent with the Constitution.

Re:Supreme Court to hear case on GOP ‘independent legislatur... by YPPH on Friday July 01, 2022 @12:04AM (#31942218)
Can't you just have an independent committee draw the electoral boundaries, like what happens in several other democracies?
Re:Supreme Court to hear case on GOP ‘independent legislatur... by alsaaro on Friday July 01, 2022 @12:12AM (#31942272)
Not if the Supreme Court rules that the Constitution requires active approval by the legislature, not laws creating a legal framework passed by the legislature.

For example many states require electors for the electoral college to be allocated by law, a partisan legislature may simply appoint electors for their preferred candidates, even if that candidate "loses" the election.

Re:Supreme Court to hear case on GOP ‘independent legislatur... by buywarbonds on Friday July 01, 2022 @12:09AM (#31942243)
A committee with that kind of power is never going to be independent
Re:Supreme Court to hear case on GOP ‘independent legislatur... by YPPH on Friday July 01, 2022 @02:58AM (#31943271)
Gerrymandering is pretty much considered a non-issue in Australia. The boundaries are drawn by an electoral authority which is fiercely independent.

The extent of politicisation of all different aspects of society, from electoral authorities, to courts, to sheriffs and DAs really seems to be a problem unique to America, I'm afraid.

Re:Supreme Court to hear case on GOP ‘independent legislatur... by _-david-_ on Friday July 01, 2022 @12:15AM (#31942283)
How is this independent committee chosen and how do you ensure they are independent?
Re:Supreme Court to hear case on GOP ‘independent legislatur... by cafard on Friday July 01, 2022 @10:02AM (#31946534)
Re:Supreme Court to hear case on GOP ‘independent legislatur... by _-david-_ on Friday July 01, 2022 @10:23PM (#31955485)
Doesn't seem that independent. They are literally appointed by the legislature / members of the legislature.

> one member selected by the majority leader of the Iowa State Senate

> one member selected by the majority leader of the Iowa House of Representatives

> one member selected by the minority leader of the Iowa State Senate

>one member selected by the minority leader of the Iowa House of Representatives

>one member selected by the first four members

Re:Supreme Court to hear case on GOP ‘independent legislatur... by alsaaro on Friday July 01, 2022 @12:34AM (#31942401)
California already uses a committee like this, so do other states.
Re:Supreme Court to hear case on GOP ‘independent legislatur... by perryizgr8 on Friday July 01, 2022 @12:59AM (#31942568)
As noted above, many countries in the world do this. But that is not the question. The question is how are the members of this committee chosen and how do you ensure it is independent?
Re:Supreme Court to hear case on GOP ‘independent legislatur... by erichocean on Friday July 01, 2022 @01:01AM (#31942575)
California is not a good example of political independence: they have a super majority of Democrats in all branches of government.

"Independence" means variations on the Left; the Right can be completely ignored as they are politically powerless—largely due to ~1M Right-leaning voters exiting California for over a decade now.

Re:Supreme Court to hear case on GOP ‘independent legislatur... by _-david-_ on Friday July 01, 2022 @10:24PM (#31955498)
Would you mind explaining the California process and how they ensure independence?