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Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by threeseed on Thursday June 30, 2022 @05:36AM (#31930365)
Which is why Jira continues to sell so well.

You simply can't force one way of working on larger companies even if that way is undisputedly the right way. Because a lot of people will need to sign off on which tool to purchase and each of them are special geniuses with their own special genius way of working.

Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by Juliate on Thursday June 30, 2022 @05:51AM (#31930449)
Well, time will tell.

I'm not opposing a single Jira methodology to a myriad of other ones (tools or processes).

I'm saying that Jira, without being constantly challenged for what it is[1] creates its own growing and tiring bureaucracy because companies (even large ones) cannot agree on a right way to work (but will add piles over piles of bureaucracy).

[1] exactly like what Agile methodologies, or some certifications are; where now it feels like almost no one remembers/knows how to organize teams _without_ resorting to anything that Agile-thinking has tainted.

It somehow relates to the fact that, in some companies, more energy and money is burnt over how to organize the work rather than doing the work itself. And it definitely shows.

Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by raverbashing on Thursday June 30, 2022 @06:29AM (#31930668)
For real, I don't think it's all about "each special snowflake's way of working" but there are legitimate needs that change

Each team can have a different workflow with Jira

Jira works for non-software-development tasks as well

I've seen it used on companies having 4/5 levels of stories deep (think Initiatives/Epic/Stories/Subtasks/etc. Different companies split this different ways.

The plugins sound inconsequential but they are very useful (almost a must) in several occasions.