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Re:Thunderbird 102 by abnercoimbre on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @11:56PM (#31916316)
One should note that doesn't really happen with Ripcord [0] though.

[0] https://cancel.fm/ripcord/

Re:Thunderbird 102 by 2pEXgD0fZ5cF on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @08:20AM (#31919127)
> doesn't really happen

Does that mean 0 cases (timeframe?) and official confirmation from the discord team that ripcord is allowed?

If not it can and will happen (as before). Why would it be inherently different with ripcord?

Re:Thunderbird 102 by abnercoimbre on Thursday June 30, 2022 @01:45AM (#31929028)
This mostly gets answered by user keb_ (see below) but I will add that Ripcord and Discord have "tussled" before: exchanged emails, etc.

Last I heard Discord maintains the TOS are getting violated, but apparently the popularity of Ripcord keeps the conflict mostly at bay.

Re:Thunderbird 102 by mid-kid on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @03:44AM (#31917498)
I've seen multiple people be banned from using this client. It does everything in its power to remain unnoticed but you only need to come across the wrong server-side detection update once to get the hammer.
Re:Thunderbird 102 by glenstein on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @07:29AM (#31918739)
Good to know and unfortunate although not terribly surprising. I guess this is the recommended user experience that the commenter up the thread is suggesting be integrated into thunderbird?
Re:Thunderbird 102 by keb_ on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @07:42PM (#31927112)
There were some automated bans that happened after an outage (years ago), but those bans got lifted. After that, I haven't seen anyone get banned for using Ripcord. But like all things, YMMV. The benefits of Ripcord outweigh the negatives for me.
Re:Thunderbird 102 by xytk on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @10:29PM (#31928155)
> It does everything in its power to remain unnoticed

It reports its user agent as "Ripcord"

Re:Thunderbird 102 by morjom on Thursday June 30, 2022 @06:27AM (#31930654)
Only bans I've heard of using Ripcord has been when people join servers on that client. Don't know how prevalent it is tho.