Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by CuriouslyC on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @07:56PM (#31914677)

How do you even define "life" biologically? Two "living" things combine to form a fetus, and just a few months down the line none of the physical matter of those living things still comprises the growing fetus. The thing that is being terminated isn't a human, it's the potential of a human, which is also the thing that is flushed down the toilet when a used condom is disposed of.

Forced birthers are crazy, full stop. A fertilized egg is not a human any more than a sperm is a human.

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Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by _-david-_ on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @11:19PM (#31916093)

If you don't understand the difference between sperm cells and a fertilized egg then you are just being obtuse.

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Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by trasz on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @05:59AM (#31918187)

Yesterday you've decided that hydatidiform mole is a human.

And here you're making the same mistake again: you're assuming that if someone disagrees with your ideas about biology it means they don't understand it. In reality the reverse is true - pro-life myths might make sense to a high schooler, but not to someone who actually understands the topic.

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Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by _-david-_ on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @11:45AM (#31921777)

I already provided links showing biologists agree that life starts at conception. It is not my fault you disagree with biologists.

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Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by CuriouslyC on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @02:25PM (#31923899)

Yet you missed the obvious fact that science doesn't even have a good definition for life, in fact it's a hard problem in the philosophy of science. You could say that the replicating mass of cells will in the future become a human being and that is not true of a sperm (unless it later goes on to fertilize an egg), but a sperm is just as "alive" as a fertilized egg.

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Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by _-david-_ on Monday July 04, 2022 @01:40PM (#31979785)

If you have some sperm cells laying around they won't grow into a human. If you have a fertilized egg it will (assuming the process completes normally).

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Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by trasz on Thursday June 30, 2022 @06:08AM (#31930536)

Again, this doesn't matter to the discussion. Even if they were fully grown humans this wouldn't "override" pregnant person's right to decide about their own body.

(Also, you're conflating 'being homo sapiens' with 'being a person'; you've already tried this method of derailing the discussion two days before.)

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Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by cato_the_elder on Friday July 01, 2022 @11:52AM (#31948203)

> Even if they were fully grown humans this wouldn't "override" pregnant person's right to decide about their own body.

Of course it would. Should you be able to murder your kids in your house because "your house, your choice"?

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Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by trasz on Saturday July 02, 2022 @07:41AM (#31958202)

>Of course it would.

Does it mean a parent can be forced to donate an organ for transplant for their child?

>Should you be able to murder your kids in your house

Completely different situation; we are talking about bodily autonomy, not “housing autonomy”.

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Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by _-david-_ on Monday July 04, 2022 @01:39PM (#31979782)

>Does it mean a parent can be forced to donate an organ for transplant for their child?

I am not who you were responding to, but since we were talking previously I will remind you what I said before. You are not obligated to provide what people need above the basic necessities. Organ donations go beyond that.

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