Re:Angular without SSR is faster than Next.js with SSR
by NoNameProvided on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @02:09AM
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> You just described every frontend framework. None of these are unique to Angular. Any developer with an understanding of JS can learn and use any framework in the exact same way.
You just summed up, why he said Angular is better in this regard. Yes any developer with experience CAN lean how to write good structured React apps. In Angular it is basically enforced.
Re:Angular without SSR is faster than Next.js with SSR
by bryans on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @01:41PM
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Doesn't learning the Angular structure require learning? If that's the metric and you have to learn good structure for both frameworks, I'm not seeing the advantage. In fact, Angular's rigidity is only an advantage if the developer finds that particular structure comfortable. And the reality is that the vast majority of developers don't find Angular comfortable to work with.
You just described every frontend framework. None of these are unique to Angular. Any developer with an understanding of JS can learn and use any framework in the exact same way.
> 280k Stack Overflow questions, vs 95k for Vue and 19k for Next. And ease of hiring due to 170k Angular developers in the US (per Sales Navigator), as opposed to 50k for Vue.js and 48k for Next.js
These are false comparisons, and you're conveniently leaving out the largest competitor. A higher SO question count isn't necessarily a positive metric, and may even imply substantial confusion about the framework. More importantly, all of the surveys[1] show that both developer and hiring interest for Angular is waning.
> whereas I regularly see job ads looking for folks with 6+ years of React experience. Now obviously you always hear about job ads looking for folks with 10 years of experience with some technology that's been around for two years, and yet I rarely come across
You're using a popular meme about some notoriously bizarre job listings written by HR managers (or interns) to suggest that developers have a harder time learning frameworks other than Angular. There is no correlation whatsoever between these two things. When "you always hear" and "yet rarely come across," you are experiencing the effects of confirmation bias.
> Angular job ads that implicitly assume it takes multiple years to learn how to use the framework correctly.
If a job lists multiple years of experience as a requirement, why would that automagically mean the employer is "implicitly assuming" multiple years of training is required to accomplish a bare minimum? In reality, it means they're looking for someone who didn't spend last weekend watching a 20 hour Udemy course to obtain a cursory understanding.
They're requiring real-world experience in a similar work/project environment, and they are paying handsomely for that experience. If it were junior development jobs with these requirements, you'd maybe have an argument, but 100% of senior positions have minimum work history requirements, because that is the definition of senior.
[1] https://gist.github.com/tkrotoff/b1caa4c3a185629299ec234d231...