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Re:Why America can’t build by TimPC on Monday June 27, 2022 @02:58PM (#31899096)
So all the teachers want to work in rich suburban schools where students perform above grade level and no one wants to work in poor inner-city schools where they don’t? The only reasonable thing you can base merit pay on is a delta. You test a performance difference between incoming and outgoing students. If a student starts a year at grade level and makes no progress you shouldn’t reward the teacher for having them at grade level.
Re:Why America can’t build by WalterBright on Monday June 27, 2022 @03:08PM (#31899268)
All the teachers want to work in a rich suburban school already.

Basing the bonus on the increment is probably a good improvement.

Re:Why America can’t build by TimPC on Monday June 27, 2022 @04:25PM (#31900294)
Plenty of teachers are willing to work in an environment where they feel they could make the biggest impact. My mother spent her whole career working in schools that could be classified as inner city with high percentages of new immigrants. Not everyone wants the easiest job possible in their field, some people see rewards in being able to make a bigger difference in people's lives.
Re:Why America can’t build by WalterBright on Monday June 27, 2022 @05:34PM (#31901143)
That doesn't seem to line up with your previous post?
Re:Why America can’t build by TimPC on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @12:06PM (#31909495)
My point is don’t actively screw those people by coming up with a dumb compensation formula that punishes them for students underperforming before they ever entered their class. If you have merit based pay you need to evaluate how much a student improved under a specific teacher’s watch.
Re:Why America can’t build by WalterBright on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @02:29PM (#31911245)
Even a blunt results based compensation would be far better than the current situation.
Re:Why America can’t build by TimPC on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @03:54PM (#31912219)
It wouldn’t if the obvious consequence of the bluntness was to chase good teachers out of the schools that most need them. And that’s what a blunt policy that punishes teachers for having students enter their class at a low level does.