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Re:DevOps is a failure by trog on Sunday June 26, 2022 @05:38PM (#31888278)
> It doesn't help that, at least in my experience, a lot of "pure" software developers absolutely want nothing to do with the ops side, preferring to work on new features and just code, and vice versa.

I have almost the exact opposite problem with some of my team, where they want to spend a lot more time on the Operational side. This is a mixed blessing - they'll learn the depths of various AWS things that are painfully boring to me - but I'd rather they were writing code instead of mucking around looking for some magic AWS solution to solve some specific use case.

Re:DevOps is a failure by macintux on Sunday June 26, 2022 @05:47PM (#31888358)
> but I'd rather they were writing code instead of mucking around looking for some magic AWS solution to solve some specific use case.

Really? To my mind, code is a last resort from a business perspective: I’d much rather developers use AWS features when available.

Re:DevOps is a failure by pojzon on Sunday June 26, 2022 @06:01PM (#31888499)
> from a business perspective

This is true that from business perspective if there was a way to completely cut off engineers and replace them with low-code / saas offerings -> we all would be out of the job next week.

Fortunately for us engineering is quite complicated.

Re:DevOps is a failure by iasay on Sunday June 26, 2022 @05:59PM (#31888485)
There’s a happy medium somewhere.