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Re:Flowers for Algernon (1965) [pdf] by johnny_reilly on Saturday June 25, 2022 @02:52PM (#31877706)
This book changed me. I was an idle eight year old, and my school didn't give us homework to do. So my father decided to set me homework of his own devising, which on one occasion was reading Flowers for Algernon.

I was moved by the story of a man who had little natural ability, straining to make the best of what he had. Then becoming smarter than everyone around him, and then what follows.

There's many things to take from this story. I took away that we should make the best of what we have. To do otherwise is to miss out. Never take what you have for granted. Everything is a blessing; don't waste it.

Re:Flowers for Algernon (1965) [pdf] by psbp on Saturday June 25, 2022 @04:07PM (#31878312)
I was always insecure about my intelligence and I remember coming away with this same idea from the book. Life is really just a series of experiences. You don't need to meet a certain standard or qualify yourself in order to have positive experiences or to have an impact. We often place so much emphasis on comparison and measuring our success/potential that we miss the whole process of living.
Re:Flowers for Algernon (1965) [pdf] by dontbenebby on Saturday June 25, 2022 @10:54PM (#31880677)
Agreed, there are people who follow metrics and those who are studied to generate new ones. (Strive to be in the latter category.)
Re:Flowers for Algernon (1965) [pdf] by helldritch on Monday June 27, 2022 @01:57AM (#31891056)
I've just been emotionally effected by this work at a deep, almost uncomfortable level.

I've worked as a mental health support worker, and this short story poked at some of the darker parts of the field: the dream of people getting "better" and wanting to "fix" them, the subtle (and not so subtle) jokes made out of their failings, having to deal with the basic human urges they don't fully understand, subjects consenting to treatment they don't have the capacity to understand, etc.

In myself, I see my own inevitable cycle of depression and elation. I'm disabled not mentally, but emotionally. I could be happier than anyone, but in the end some part of me is always dragged back into anguish. Charlie was a genius, but in his infantile state it's brought him nothing but pain.

The saddest part of all of this is that even when Charlie became smart enough to understand the world around him, he spent so little time in the relatable range of intelligence that the people he cared about struggled to communicate with him. They didn't understand, they were worried. Charlie never truly had a friend. Ms Kinnian cared for him, but they spent so little time able to meaningfully interact that friendship didn't have the chance to properly form.

I'm going to go and pet my dog, I think, until this reaction passes.

Re:Flowers for Algernon (1965) [pdf] by randycupertino on Sunday June 26, 2022 @05:09AM (#31882295)
It's such a wonderful book! Beautifully written, haunting, lovely and sad all at the same time. One of my all-time favorite stories.

"I don’t know what’s worse: to not know what you are and be happy, or to become what you’ve always wanted to be, and feel alone."

One interesting thing re: the novel is the disease Charlie has, PKU is generally screened for in infants today and treated with dietary changes: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X1...

Re:Flowers for Algernon (1965) [pdf] by mlhpdx on Sunday June 26, 2022 @12:25AM (#31881054)
Likewise, I read this story at an early age and have never forgotten it. It was moving and terrifying to feel that progression and regression against the backdrop of education and grades and fitting in.

Regarding the comments using the words “less-intelligent” to motivate their “kindness”: Kindness without respect is just being nice.

Re:Flowers for Algernon (1965) [pdf] by smugma on Monday June 27, 2022 @01:05AM (#31890765)
Thank you for this comment. It encouraged me to read it to my two kids (~8) last night. I actually only got about half way through it. The younger one got bored and it actually started making me choke up. I loved the story as a kid but as an adult it hurts.
Re:Flowers for Algernon (1965) [pdf] by ec109685 on Sunday June 26, 2022 @12:42AM (#31881138)
Read this in seventh grade, and it really did move me as well. There are many events that happen in life (and stories) that remind me of this book.

Agree with the premise of make the best of what you have.

Re:Flowers for Algernon (1965) [pdf] by DaiPlusPlus on Saturday June 25, 2022 @11:18PM (#31880779)
> I took away that we should make the best of what we have.

As someone on the spectrum, no.

Re:Flowers for Algernon (1965) [pdf] by upwardbound on Saturday June 25, 2022 @11:33PM (#31880839)
I have a miscellaneous question in case you happen to have a perspective. Do you think it might be potentially ambiguous to use the general term "the spectrum" to refer only to the asperger's/autism spectrum? Human minds are wonderfully diverse, and I feel like it might downplay that diversity if we make it sound like there is only one spectrum of genetically-linked mental phenotypes. As some examples:

- eidetic memory

- depression

- perfect pitch

And much more. I've always wanted to ask this and was wondering if you had thoughts on this?

Re:Flowers for Algernon (1965) [pdf] by ElvisTrout on Saturday June 25, 2022 @11:57PM (#31880925)
The word spectrum is a word in its own right. You can apply it to whatever you want.
Re:Flowers for Algernon (1965) [pdf] by jstanley on Sunday June 26, 2022 @01:23AM (#31881344)
What else are you going to do? Not make the best of what you have?

On the spectrum or not, you'll be gone in 100 years. May as well try and enjoy it while you're here.