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Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by zarzavat on Friday June 24, 2022 @10:30PM (#31871931)
> - people are forced to give birth against their will

Birth is caused by pregnancy. Pregnancy is caused by sex.

There’s a simple way to avoid being “forced” to carry a pregnancy to term: either don’t have sex, or use one of the many contraceptive methods - use two if you are really worried!

Yes this doesn’t work in all cases, in cases of rape for instance - but that is why abortion laws often make exceptions for rape, fetal abnormality, risk to life of the mother, etc. Abortion is not the binary black-and-white issue that is presented in American politics, most countries have quite some nuance in their law on abortion.

Returning to the case of merely undesired pregnancies, restricting those abortions does not force anybody to do anything, it commits them to the logical consequence of their action that resulted in the creation of a new human.

Balancing the rights of the mother and the rights of the unborn is the responsibility of the law. It is not satisfactory to cede all rights to the mother, nor to cede all rights to the unborn child, as the two extremist positions in the US seem to want to do.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by camgunz on Saturday June 25, 2022 @01:12AM (#31872781)
Oklahoma's ban doesn't have such exceptions. None of the new trigger bans allow for abortion in the event of fatal fetal abnormality. These laws don't countenance the facts of pregnancy; instead they essentially frame it as slut shaming, which you're also doing here. Contraception fails. People are assaulted. Pregnancies often go awry. The issue transcends promiscuity.

Roe and Casey actually both balanced the state's interest in fetal life with the mothers liberty, Roe with the trimester framework and Casey with the viability line. I urge you to actually read them.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by libraryatnight on Friday June 24, 2022 @11:13PM (#31872205)
the unborn have no rights. their existence is attached to an already autonomous and free human being. I can choose to kill the bacteria in my body. I can choose to kill a parasite. I can choose to kill an unborn fetus.