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Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by runjake on Friday June 24, 2022 @04:59PM (#31869233)
> as long as contraception is legal (and who knows what will happen next)

Here’s a good indicator:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/24/politics/abortion-ruling-gay-...

Spoiler: it looks like contraceptives are likely next for SCOTUS.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by endisneigh on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:01PM (#31869255)
Is it?

> He emphasized a line the majority opinion that said "[n]othing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion." "We have also explained why that is so: rights regarding contraception and same-sex relationships are inherently different from the right to abortion because the latter (as we have stressed) uniquely involves what Roe and Casey termed 'potential life,'" Alito said.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by coward123 on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:08PM (#31869331)
um... why do you think these conservative judges were named to the court? They know exactly what they are doing and have every intention of ending contraception, sending women's rights back to the dark ages, and screwing over anyone not straight, Christian, and white. That's the job they were nominated to do.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by tjs8rj on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:27PM (#31869568)
You’re laying out the definition of a slippery slope argument.

75% of Americans want restrictions on abortion (beyond just Roe v wade’s shaky constitutional basis).

The vast vast majority of Americans are ok with contraceptives, same sex marriage has firm constitutional basis, etc these aren’t going away

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by skissane on Friday June 24, 2022 @06:02PM (#31870016)
> The vast vast majority of Americans are ok with contraceptives, same sex marriage has firm constitutional basis, etc these aren’t going away

Across-the-board bans on contraception aren't happening, because almost nobody wants such a ban.

But overturning Obergefell? I think it is likely. According to 2021 polling data [0], there is still majority opposition to marriage equality in Mississippi (55% oppose) and Arkansas (52% oppose). It looks like the state government trying to overturn it would be a vote-winner in those two states – especially considering that people who actually vote often skew older and more conservative than the population in general, so opposition to it in those states may be even stronger among voters. There are other states where support is still quite weak, such as Alabama (49% support, 47% opposition) and South Carolina (50% support), so the same might be true for them as well. It only takes one state to act to get a case before the Supreme Court.

[0] https://ava.prri.org/#lgbt/2021/States/lgbt_ssm/2,3,9

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by poulsbohemian on Friday June 24, 2022 @06:57PM (#31870570)
>Across-the-board bans on contraception aren't happening, because almost nobody wants such a ban.

Except the Catholic Church, and 6 mostly conservative members of SCOTUS happen to be Catholic.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by skissane on Friday June 24, 2022 @09:13PM (#31871510)
While the Catholic Church does teach that artificial contraception is inherently sinful, it’s leadership has not - certainly in recent decades - displayed any interest in having that moral view enforced by law. If no state enacts a general ban on contraception, SCOTUS will never get the opportunity to directly rule on its constitutionality.

Also, much of the success of the movement to restrict abortion has been because it has been a cross-faith alliance - Catholics, Evangelicals, Mormons, Orthodox Jews, among others. The same winning formula won’t work for a general ban on contraception, because Catholics are the only member of that coalition who believe that artificial contraception is inherently sinful-the others view its moral acceptability as more situation-dependent.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by magicalist on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:45PM (#31869803)
> You’re laying out the definition of a slippery slope argument.

When Clarence Thomas says "here's the slope I think we should slide down next", we're not in fallacy land anymore.

> these aren’t going away

Don't worry! They won't go away. It'll just be up to the state governments currently passing laws forcing women to carry rapists' babies to term to decide if you can have sex outside of marriage or not. States rights!

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by nikelous on Sunday June 26, 2022 @01:21PM (#31885843)
You nailed it perfectly. Thomas announced the slope.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by dragonwriter on Friday June 24, 2022 @07:11PM (#31870683)
> The vast vast majority of Americans are ok with contraceptives

The trigger laws that just went into effect in several cases would appear to ban some contraception, like IUDs (or, rather, criminalize it when they work), since they result in termination of pregnancy as the laws define it. (Because they use fertilization, not implantation, as the definition of the start of pregnancy.)

Of course, there's a proof issue for any actual prosecution for homicide, but that's a practical barrier to enforcement that doesn't affect what the law prohibits.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by guelo on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:41PM (#31869741)
What you're saying is that the conservative judges are activists doing what's popular in their movement, not applying any principles.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by f38zf5vdt on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:03PM (#31869277)
Alito is one Justice -- Thomas stated that "In future cases, we should reconsider all of this court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell."
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by endisneigh on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:04PM (#31869286)
Sure, but Alito plus the others means it’ll never pass.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by jakelazaroff on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:09PM (#31869349)
Many of the others called Roe v. Wade "settled law" in sworn statements. That didn't stop them from voting to overturn it today.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by endisneigh on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:15PM (#31869415)
Sure, but no state to my knowledge has banned all contraceptives, even though they already could so even in the hypothetical states would make them legal.