While I won't try to argue with you because abortion is the thing we won't see eye to eye on, what bout the 'or' on contraception, or do you think that responsible people only think that sex is for making babies?

On another thought, you think the best thing to do is give people you judge as irresponsible a child? Also, doesn’t original sin mean the fetus not innocent? Is innocence really the important measure? Because lots of things are innocent we don’t care about.

> what bout the 'or' on contraception

I don't have any particular problems with contraception. Some right-wingers do, they should speak for themselves. (I'm also not against early-stage abortions)

> On another thought, you think the best thing to do is give people you judge as irresponsible a child?

It's not ideal, it's just better than normalizing taking innocent lives. Also, if someone really thinks they can't be a good parent, putting up the baby for adoption is always an option.

> Also, doesn’t original sin mean the fetus not innocent?(which of course doesn't really apply since it's not a person)

I'm not religious, so I don't really think about the issue in terms of sins in the religious sense.

Saying "innocent fetus" is like calling a horse with a top hat a gentleman.

Yeah, because we all know if you wait a little bit, the horse will develop into a fully-fledged human beings.