News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Apple is not defending browser engine choice by dmitriid on Friday June 24, 2022 @02:06PM (#31866798)
> Would you point me to Apple's alternative implementation for access bluetooth / nfc?

1. This is clearly moving goalposts

2. Why would Apple or Firefox provide you with an "alternative implementation for access bluetooth / nfc"?

> Instead they offer for you to install

No. Instead both they and Mozilla consider these non-standrads harmful and have no intention of implementing them. Or are you going to pretend that Mozilla is in Apple's pocket and does this to enrich Apple?

I'm not going to react to yet another mindless list of things that you have little knowledge of.

Re:Apple is not defending browser engine choice by mtomweb on Friday June 24, 2022 @08:49PM (#31871374)
1. If you're going to say you don't like spec because of issues, you should explicitly describe what those issues are OR offer up an alternative spec. Simply not engaging on the spec doesn't present as engineers trying to solve a problem.

2. Neither Apple or Mozilla have described in detail what they think the harms are and why the specs do not cover those harms. But Mozilla is not a gatekeeper and doesn't ban the competition from 50% of mobile devices, so IMO they should be free to decide to do whatever they want even if I disagree with their decision.

Apple on the other hand not only doesn't describe the security issues in ANY detail, or outline why the specs don't cover them, it bans the competition from bringing any solution to the problem while at the same time providing a significantly insecure solution on native which is widely used to track and surveil users and for 9 years didn't even require a permission prompt.

As for resorting to insults about mindless list of things, have you even attempted to build a web app for iOS?

In every single case of the most ardent Safari defenders the answer is no. Unsurprisingly the people that care about the issues in Safari are the ones with the most knowledge that have to work with it daily.

Re:Apple is not defending browser engine choice by dmitriid on Saturday June 25, 2022 @02:28AM (#31873047)
> If you're going to say you don't like spec because of issues, you should explicitly describe what those issues are

They did

> Neither Apple or Mozilla have described in detail what they think the harms are

They did

> As for resorting to insults about mindless list of things, have you even attempted to build a web app for iOS

Doesn't explain why you keep dumping these lists without thinking and parroting Google's talking points