Re:A common trap for people entering programming jobs
by asiachick on Friday June 24, 2022 @04:15AM
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Are you saying people in Europe care more about their jobs?
That's certainly not my experience. I've met just as many Europeans that hate their jobs and just do it for the money. They spend as little time as possible doing them.
I'm reminded of this book
https://web.archive.org/web/20090901204114/https://www.nytim...
Re:A common trap for people entering programming jobs
by 2b3a51 on Friday June 24, 2022 @06:53AM
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Well, didn't she do well (as the host of a popular UK TV game show used to say about contestants)
https://www.corinnemaier.info/english/
Of course, you work to pay for the rest of your life but I think there is a role for craft and teamwork in all of this.
But I care about my work in a deep way that you don't seem to feel. If I manage to get a junior / medior to properly step up to a task and grow confident I feel pride, connection and sense of doing the right thing. The whole business layer comes second for me at that moment.
Another thought is that I feel that 'in Europe' (generalisation) the antagonistic nature of employment is not felt the same way especially for professional jobs. We have no firing at will. As an manager I understand that I have a multi year relationship with people that should transcend the tasks at hand. The tasks at hand should be done and done well, but a job should be both fulfilling and manageable for the individual. Even if a hiring fails somewhat you have to make it work. The current job market creates an even bigger reason to treat people well.