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Re:Copilot sells code other people wrote by andybak on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:46PM (#31852662)
And I really don't mind.

I want every line of code I've ever written to be used as much as possible.

I find "intellectual property" to be dubious to the core. I'm not confident enough in my feelings to be a zealot, but if I had to pick sides then I know which side I would pick.

Re:Copilot sells code other people wrote by JoshTriplett on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:08PM (#31853800)
You're welcome to use a "do whatever you want" license on your code, and people should respect that. (Though even those licenses tend to require attribution, and copilot doesn't do even that.)

Other people use licenses that try to create a commons where if you want to use it you need to share your own code, as a counterpoint to the non-commons in which you can't use code at all. And if people use those licenses, they should be respected as well.

By all means, eliminate copyright, and let all code be copied freely. And until that happens, as long as proprietary code exists and doesn't let anyone copy it, respect copyleft licenses as well.

Re:Copilot sells code other people wrote by andybak on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:26PM (#31854057)
A fair point. "What to do in a world where copyright already exists" is a tougher question to answer and one in which I tend to go back and forth.
Re:Copilot sells code other people wrote by sirsinsalot on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:15PM (#31853895)
If an AI "listened" to music and created new samples for musicians to use for a fee, do you not think the original musicians should be compensated?

The value transfer is basically theft.

It isn't about the usefulness of the service, or even that something similar is a good thing ... it is about the execution and what it says about fairness for those that worked to create the data it depends on to produce value.

Re:Copilot sells code other people wrote by andybak on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:24PM (#31854022)
I'm not sure I was clear enough when I expressed my doubts about the concept of intellectual property.

Your musical example is playing out in the courts in multiple forms. The Marvin Gaye case, Led Zeppelin, Katie Perry etc.

And each case pushes me further towards wanting to rip down the whole rotten edifice.

We've lived through 4 or 5 decades of unprecedented expansion of the domain to which IP lays claim. Surely it's time for the pendulum to swing the other way?

Re:Copilot sells code other people wrote by HeavyStorm on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:17PM (#31856907)
If I listen to music and create samples to be sold, is it theft?
Re:Copilot sells code other people wrote by sirsinsalot on Friday June 24, 2022 @06:35AM (#31859866)
If your aim is to produce music that is directly derived from what you listened to ... yes. And this has been tested in court time and again.

AI isn't being inspired or creative, it is mass scale and mechanised bootlegging.

To compare it to human inspiration is naive or wishful thinking.