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Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by com2kid on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:11PM (#31852142)
> Coffee? every day is fine

/r/nootropics, common thread is as follows:

OP: "Help, I have bad anxiety every day, what should I take for it?"

re: "Do you drink coffee?"

OP: "Yes, about 4 cups a day."

re: "Stop drinking coffee and come back in a week and tell us how you are doing."

1 week later.

OP: "My anxiety is gone!!"

Caffeine has negative side effects. For some people those side effects are really bad.

Also caffeine messes up sleep cycles. After seeing sleep study results, I won't touch the stuff after 10am or so, if even that late.

Alcohol is even worse in this regard, it will just ruin your sleep cycles at night.

Edit: Let me emphasis this for anyone reading:

YOU WILL NOT GET DEEP SLEEP IF YOU HAVE A NIGHTCAP.

Yes, you will get drowsy, drink enough and you will pass out. The restorative quality of the sleep you get that night will NOT be good. I've seen first hand the sleep study results from this. The effect is so obvious that even the questionable sleep quality results that wrist based wearables give you can easily and consistently show this effect.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by dfxm12 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:33PM (#31852469)
Does caffeine have negative side effects, or does caffeine, taken in excess, including in late hours of the day, have negative side effects?

It's an important distinction to make in this discussion, which largely boils down to "off label use", whether we're talking about drinking simply too much coffee or people with developing brains getting too much thc.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by com2kid on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:47PM (#31852681)
> Does caffeine have negative side effects,

Caffeine has negative side effects. It is an addictive psychoactive drug. Its effects are mild, but, to repeat, it is an addictive psychoactive drug.

Even moderate use can cause sever anxiety in some people. L-theanine is a great counter to this. Green tea naturally has L-theanine in it and that is likely why people who drink green tea do not report anxiety (at least in significant numbers) while coffee drinkers do.

FWIW Matcha has even more L-theanine that green tea.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by kayodelycaon on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:39PM (#31853409)
Note: L-theanine binds to glutamate receptors and that can mess with psychotropic medications like mood stabilizers and anti-psychotics.

From personal experience, it caused my medications to stop working.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by com2kid on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:42PM (#31854234)
> Note: L-theanine binds to glutamate receptors and that can mess with psychotropic medications like mood stabilizers and anti-psychotics.

Now that I did not know. Given that l-theanine is a natural constituent of green tea (though I don't know offhand in what amount) I figure there would be more mention of this! A casual search doesn't reveal much, and even examine.com (https://examine.com/supplements/theanine/research/#pharmacol...) doesn't have anything listed. Ugh.

Then again almost no one mentions that 5-HTP can cause horrible things to happen to your heart. :/

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by bowsamic on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:01PM (#31855114)
Most drugs and drug reactions are still very unexplored
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by markdown on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:07PM (#31855171)
> It is an addictive psychoactive drug

I just quit cold turkey three days ago and suffered through two days of horrible headaches. I don't want to ever get hooked again.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by mtnGoat on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:53PM (#31852761)
this is rhetorical right?
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by bun_at_work on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:45PM (#31852652)
Just piggy-backing on this comment; a great book about sleep is Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker. The author does seem to fall into the "everything is a nail when all you have is a hammer" trap, but they do know a lot about sleep and the points in the above comment are backed up in the book with solid studies and references.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34466963-why-we-sleep

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by com2kid on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:50PM (#31852712)
All my knowledge comes from reviewing sleep study data we did to train the Microsoft Band on sleep recognition. I'm not an expert by any means, just someone who got slapped in the face with a bunch of data that loudly screamed "THIS IS UNHEALTHY STOP DOING IT."
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by emmo on Friday June 24, 2022 @01:37AM (#31858152)
As a bit of a caution on the book, it's probably worth a look at this article: https://guzey.com/books/why-we-sleep/
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by koverstreet on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:00PM (#31852857)
Even these aren't universal though. For me, with ADD, my anxiety goes up when I'm not on stimulants, and the thing that destroys my sleep is intensive, creative coding. Alcohol doesn't do much to my sleep.

I think the most universal things everyone should be doing are: get more exercise, and get more sleep.